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GJH0702



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Air con or Power

Last few weeks first time used Air con fully since purchase.
Amazed and disappointed when on no power - I.e sluggish , hard to accelerate
Not had this type of situation for about 20 years when Air Con first popular

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Barton Freelander



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Can't say I've ever noticed any power loss and mine is on climate control all the time. Confused Freelander2 GS TD4 Manual in Lago Grey Smile .Roof Mount DVD 9.2''Screen~Window Tints~Parrot CK3100 Bluetooth~Retro Fit Sony Satnav~iPhone Dashmount~Side Steps~Woodco Armrest~Mudflaps~Land Rover Sunglass Holder~LED Interior Lights~Private Plate.Evoque Collected 17th Sept 2012.


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bigalf1961



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mine does go a little sluggish at lower revs when a/c is running had a ford c max tdci that did the same was told ist normal by ford dealer have not yet questioned the l/r dealer but will do if it continues Thumbs Up rainy-city
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athelstan



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Barton Freelander wrote:
Can't say I've ever noticed any power loss and mine is on climate control all the time. Confused


Agreed.
Her Ladyship's has had its A/C on from day one every day (2 1/2yrs) in temps from +40°C down to -35°C and our experience is that the FL2's system is very efficient indeed coping with all climatic conditions.

I suggest that if you experience a "sluggish" performance get the system checked by an automotive aircon specialist. However, before you do that have you used the "fan" booster control dial Question

Are you really talking about the aircon's performance or the Fl2's motor's acceleration performance when you've switched the aircon on? Switching the aircon on should have no noticeable detrimental effect on the car's acceleration. If it does then get the vehicle checked.

Finally, with any car with aircon fitted it is recommended good practise to use the aircon at least once a fortnight for a day - best practise is to use it all the time to avoid operating problems Idea

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RazMan



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In my experience you will always suffer a small decrease in power - which makes sense really as the aircon compressor takes a lot of turning under load. This is confirmed when you look at fuel consumption when it is switched on, hence the 'econ' setting. I tend to use 'econ' most of the time until hot weather makes it necessary to use full-on aircon to make thing nice and cool.

In the words of a well known engineer "Ye canny chenge the laws of physics cap'n" Cheers,
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chicken george



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try turning air con on and off when at tick over, you will sense the engine note change slightly as it takes the load. At work
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athelstan



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Yes - using the aircon will consume energy - but - as far as the FL2 that her Ladyship drives it is almost imperceptible and certainly does not make engine performance; quote "sluggish". Hence my view is that if that is happenings with the OP's FL2 then they should seek LR's assistance in determining why that is so.

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chapsworth



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When the aircon is on the stop-start stops as well.......and the stop-start starts when the aircon is off

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EYorkshire



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You definitely have a problem, yes the 'aircon' will take a loading on the engine but it will not be noticeable in driving, only your fuel consumption at the end of the day by a small amount.
Like the others I notice no drop in power at all.

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chicken george



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I would have thought that if your aircon is drawing that much power its drive belt would soon give and either go slack or snap At work
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chapsworth wrote:
When the aircon is on the stop-start stops as well.......and the stop-start starts when the aircon is off


Aircon being on should not impact on the initial working of stop/start but as shown below if the climate control system demand increases while the engine is stopped it will restart, as it will if the battery charge goes down too far.

CONDITIONS CAUSING AUTOMATIC ENGINE RESTART
The engine will automatically start if:-
• climate control system demand increases
• the vehicle’s speed reaches approximately 3 km/h (2 mph)
• HDC or a Terrain Response special program are selected
• battery charge becomes low
• brake vacuum has been reduced (eg using the brake pedal repeatedly with the engine off)

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athelstan



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Absolutely rchrdleigh Absolutely Thumbs Up

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BrianAbbott



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In my SD Auto, there's no perceptible change when the a/c is switched on or off.

As others have said, take it back to the dealer, there's something wrong. Brian

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Annie



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I don't notice a difference in power when i switch my climate control on, unlike the Hyundai coupe that i had in 2006 that gave me a 'jerk' every time i switched on Laughing Embarassed 59 TD4e XS in galway green

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tyke65



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The aircon can be switched off……………………………?

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