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The Doctor



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What is it with 1st gear?

I know EY mentioned this recently with regard to auto so it isn't just a manual thing. Anyway, I needed to pull out to go around a roundabout rather promptly due to the sudden emergence of a transit van doing mach 3.

So, the clutch control stage was over and done with, I was fully off the clutch and the throttle was welded to the floor. Despite this it would have been quicker to get out and walk! Evil or Very Mad It did eventually respond suddenly with the needle flying off towards the red zone.

Is this a traction control thing cutting the power? I suspect it may need a more measured acceleration attempt on my part but that said I never encountered this with any other car I have had.

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Post #140510 21st Apr 2012 7:53 pm
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Did you have the brakes pressed within a couple of seconds of going?

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The Doctor



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No Taz, I was committed and so had started pulling out when the supersonic van emerged so I simply floored it with no hesitation but there was nothing.

The eventual acceleration meant the van just missed the back of me. Bloody idiot should slow down but that's white van man for you LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Enjoy the joy of less and less polluting cars and electronic driven injection.
Hope it fits a postcard... Laughing

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Mine does this i think it is the traction control although it doesn't always show up with the orange light. Sad just have to wait longer i guess lol...

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Was the terrain responce switched on or was it knocked off?

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The Doctor



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Lee Howe wrote:
Was the terrain responce switched on or was it knocked off?


It was in normal road mode. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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I understand torque is limited in 1st gear - maybe this is a factor? 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

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My previous car, Jag X-Type, did the same thing. 2013 RR Evoque Pure Tech
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What were the engine revs when this was happening? The 2.2 diesel does seem to have the flat-spot-from-hell under around 1,500rpm, where is seems to produce only just enough power not to stall! Rolling Eyes

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Never noticed a flat spot in mine?

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Don't know tigger. I was too concerned by the Saturn V Transit Van to pay close attention to the rev counter but if I can find a suitable place, I might try and repeat the process. LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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Sounds like a bad case of turbo lag. John
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Variable vanes can slow do the acceleration process

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alex_pescaru wrote:
Enjoy the joy of less and less polluting cars and electronic driven injection.
Hope it fits a postcard... Laughing


I think its as Alex stated, the old days a stamp of the accelerator was accompanied by a puff of black smoke as it attempted to burn the overdosed fuel input, now the electronics of an engine prohibit smoke, soot, over injection etc, and it all makes for a sedate getaway Sad
The cars emissions control is not allowing what we want to do in certain circumstances.

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