Firstly hello!!! I'm new here, not to land rovers, got a 90 and had most models except RR. I'm planning to get a 2007 - 2008, looking just now, but always like to put my mark on my vehicles, and heres my question, what is the difference between the early ones and when were they facelifted? I've looked around, and searched but cant find anywhere, sorry if its been asked before. Brilliant forum BTW.

Hello and welcome

TD4 engine got less power but more torque. SD4 option arrived with 190bhp auto only. Minor tweaks inside such as speedometer and rev counter dials (bolder numbers). Changes to lights. New front grill and the chrome
ar e  LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
LOT (Lord of Time) - University of Gallifrey

Welcome to the forum

Facelifted for the 2011 model year (available toward the end of 2010 I think) and as the doc said the key difference is a different front end with new bumper and projector lights, the rear got a chrome a piece much to many peoples dis-taste, the engines got fettled (150bhp vs 160bhp and the new SD 190) and they also recieved a DPF. 2011 also saw the introduction of the 2WD version shortly after the release of the face lift.

Specs have changed slightly tyhroughout the model range and generally every year although they have stayed pretty much the same with the S, GS, SE/XS and the HSE.

Pre facelift the S came with no gadgets or terrain programme. Post facelift it came with the terrain programme thingy
The SE is no longer available in post facelift but has been replaced with the XS. The SE and XS were available pre facelift except the specs were so close they eventually dropped the SE. (The SE being closest to the HSE)

HSE comes with everything pre and post face lift.

The facelift is an easy retro fit if you are interested... many have done it (take a look here http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic7917.html?highlight=relic ) Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

Just to add to Captain's info, the rear door is easy to facelift - I managed it in a couple of hours without too much trouble - basically drilling a few more holes to locate the longer chrome ar$e piece (which I actually prefer )
I will be doing the front end soon - got the bumper but need to paint it first. Cheers,
Raz
FL1 TD4 GS Auto 2001 Silver
FL2 TD4 Auto 2007 Black
FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2012 Fuji White

Question:
Not that I'm at all interested (and neither is her Ladyship whose FL2 it is) to put any chrome on the FL2, would it not be an option for those wishing to change to a chrome tail, to stick it on securely with "Gorilla Tape" and thereby avoid drilling extra holes in the tailgate's body?

I have a 2007 HSE which I found after a lot of searching. It only had 28,000 on the clock with a full LR history at one dealership. It is mint and saved me a whole lot of dosh! One of the benefits of buying an older one is no DPF!

Have a look at some of the posts on DPFs to see why I am pleased. John
07 HSE Narvick Black
Land Rover Series One
Triumph Rocket 111 (sadly gone!)

Ah but we with the DPF have the pleasure of helping save the planet and not choking the little old lady as we pass her on the pavement.
A small price to pay, I wish I had two in my exhaust too help pay for your smelly, sooty offset

....but I put 2 stroke in the fuel so it burns cleaner than a very clean thing!  John
07 HSE Narvick Black
Land Rover Series One
Triumph Rocket 111 (sadly gone!)

EYorkshire wrote:

Ah but we with the DPF have the pleasure of helping save the planet and not choking the little old lady as we pass her on the pavement.
A small price to pay, I wish I had two in my exhaust too help pay for your smelly, sooty offset

That is until you have to frape it down the motorway to clear the dam thing!!  Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

But while I'm doing that, I look over towards Solihull and see the thick haze of pollution above the unfortunate town knowing the continued use of non DPF cars are slowly choking the poor residents that live there .
My DPF has allowed a sapling to grow into a happy green tree that will help save this world and so what if it takes a second or two to accelerate into a roundabout, others can wait while I clean the mess I just left on my seat

The DPF.
Within the first year of ownership her Ladyship's MY2010 FL2 had the DPF warning alarm - to cleanse, go to dealer. So we promptly visited the dealer and he of course said "run it fast down the motorway etc etc as per the OM". I told him that has been tried not just for 20mins but for over an hour at speeds between 90 to 110kph. The dealer contacted LR CH and they said the software needed updating. They did that, and so far nearly 2yrs and 32k kms after that event we have had no repeat of the DPF warning. Fingers crossed that satisfactory position will remain so.

However, the spectacle of Captain Worm imitating a JC Faulty Tower's french "frap" - a.k.a. to lash down or hit - his FL2 whilst going down the motorway would indeed be most amusing. So disregarding the environmental benefits, folks should drive a DPF rigged FL2 to increase the jollity of the nation. Because everyone knows that laughter is good for your health

Thread Hi-jack warning!! Sorry darryloh but it now seems to be a DPF thread.

...anyway...genuine question, has anyone seen what LR dealers do to a DPF car when it gets the "go to your dealer" message?

Having worked at at Ford Main Dealer I have seen what happens to a Focus Tdci when it needs "regeneration". Basically it gets plugged into the computer which then revs the nuts of the thing.....4,000 rpm for 20 minutes! How good is that for saving trees?...or the engine for that matter. John
07 HSE Narvick Black
Land Rover Series One
Triumph Rocket 111 (sadly gone!)

Were you interested in Woofers and Tweeters  2002 Honda VFR800
2002 Toyota Celica 140 Silver (mid life crisis - again!)
2007 FL2 GS Manual Army Reconnaissance Green + freel2.com sticker
2004 Toyota Celica 140 Black - Gone
2000 Toyota Celica 140 Silver - Gone
1998 Toyota Celica ST Pearl Green - Gone
1996 Nissan Primera 1.6 - Gone
1994 Rover Montego 1.6 Auto - Gone

Erm guys, aren't we are drifting OT here a bit? - facelift to DPF to woofers & tweeters?

athelstan wrote:

Question:
..., would it not be an option for those wishing to change to a chrome tail, to stick it on securely with "Gorilla Tape" and thereby avoid drilling extra holes in the tailgate's body?

Hey, thanks for the replies, exactly what I was hoping for, some useful info there. As regards drifting OT, its all good