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Tandemman



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chicken george wrote:
Shame that you chose a foreign made car instead of supporting the UK workforce. Rolling Eyes



John Deere?????

Post #138711 5th Apr 2012 6:19 am
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chicken george



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as opposed too?
atleast John deere tractors are made in the EU giving some hope of helping the UK economy,
UK manufactured tractor choices are very slim.

That said I over the last 5yrs I been on a buying spree of farm equipment, a large proportion of it being UK manufactured. Only looking at imported products when UK offerings don't fit the bill. At work
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Bazza28



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Hi Chicken George

I think you need to take a look at who owns LR and more the point, that some FL2's are manufactured in India,and only assembled in the UK. At the end of the day I have to support myself,because no other Censored will. The lowest PX price for my immaculate FL2 was from a LR dealer ,and by a big margin.where is the reciprical support???

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over the last few years we have been visiting caravan/motorhome dealers thinking about buying.

a lot of the staff drive Kia and use to tow their own caravans............they swear by them.

Iain

Post #138722 5th Apr 2012 8:08 am
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npinks



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personally, i will choose a car, not the workforce behind it,

If the LR doesn't fit the bill, then Audi or BMW will be looked at, if they dont fit the bill, then i will look further afield

i think i will draw the line and not look at China replica cars though Laughing

Post #138724 5th Apr 2012 8:19 am
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Andy S



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Bazza28 wrote:
Hi Chicken George

I think you need to take a look at who owns LR and more the point, that some FL2's are manufactured in India,and only assembled in the UK. At the end of the day I have to support myself,because no other Censored will. The lowest PX price for my immaculate FL2 was from a LR dealer ,and by a big margin.where is the reciprical support???


Err you're wrong mate. LRs are built up in India from knock down kits manufactured in either Halewood or Solihull. Tata, being an Indian company is looking to actually manufacture cars their, but at the moment they don't have the supply chain they need.

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I also think LR need to sort out dealer pricing policies. They pay bottom dollar for a trade in and over the odds for second hand cars. I bought my FL from a non LR dealer and paid £3,000 less than the LR dealer were asking for an equivalent vehicle. John
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Post #138728 5th Apr 2012 8:26 am
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chicken george



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the men in the LR plants dont care who owns the place they works in , but he is glad of the pay packet. As are the workers in the associated production plants feeding the factory.

is it not better to give your hard earned to uk individuals than too workers in a far of country.


yes jag land rover isnt UK owned , but the plants are in the UK. At work
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chicken george



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JST wrote:
I also think LR need to sort out dealer pricing policies. They pay bottom dollar for a trade in and over the odds for second hand cars. I bought my FL from a non LR dealer and paid £3,000 less than the LR dealer were asking for an equivalent vehicle.



LR dealers arnt overflowing with unsold stock, so there prices must be acceptable to many, however foolish. they will only reduces prices when the end up having to dump unsold stock to the trade/auctions. At work
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Post #138737 5th Apr 2012 9:26 am
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I agree with CG up to a point but an individual must put his 'hard earned' in a product he believes in and has faith in, or a way to get the best out of it via a long warranty.
If LR product fits that bill then good but 'hard earned' deserves the best return in your 'investment'.

Snob value doesn't cut it these days (unless you are a member of this forum), drivers want a vehicle as cheap as possible, runs as economically as possible, as reliable as possible, warrantied for as long as possible and does the job it was intended for.
If a foreign car fits that bill then so be it, it would be up to other manufacturers to match that and become as competitive.

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I will by a car best suited my needs but one of the major priorities for me is where it comes from, we have not got much manufacturing in this country so I try to support it the best I can.

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npinks



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One bonus point for LR is if u wanted to look at a FL2 they have a new one in the showroom, unlike VW And Audi today both didn't have either the toureg or Q5 to look at today when been nosy, so it's a cup o tea and a brochure to look at

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Bazza28



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Andy S wrote:
Bazza28 wrote:
Hi Chicken George

I think you need to take a look at who owns LR and more the point, that some FL2's are manufactured in India,and only assembled in the UK. At the end of the day I have to support myself,because no other Censored will. The lowest PX price for my immaculate FL2 was from a LR dealer ,and by a big margin.where is the reciprical support???


Err you're wrong mate. LRs are built up in India from knock down kits manufactured in either Halewood or Solihull. Tata, being an Indian company is looking to actually manufacture cars their, but at the moment they don't have the supply chain they need.


Sorry chicken George you are quire correct,I have no idea where I got that useless information from!!!!

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npinks wrote:
personally, i will choose a car, not the workforce behind it,

If the LR doesn't fit the bill, then Audi or BMW will be looked at, if they dont fit the bill, then i will look further afield

i think i will draw the line and not look at China replica cars though Laughing


I'm the exact opposite. The workforce is my main critera.
The same goes for everything else I buy. If i can find whatever I'm after made in the UK, that's the route I go down rightly or wrongly.
I've seen too many good people loose thier jobs. Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

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Pegleg wrote:
npinks wrote:
personally, i will choose a car, not the workforce behind it,

If the LR doesn't fit the bill, then Audi or BMW will be looked at, if they dont fit the bill, then i will look further afield

i think i will draw the line and not look at China replica cars though Laughing


I'm the exact opposite. The workforce is my main critera.
The same goes for everything else I buy. If i can find whatever I'm after made in the UK, that's the route I go down rightly or wrongly.
I've seen too many good people loose thier jobs.


Got to agree with you there. Even the media and politicians have begun to realise that, as an economy, we ignore our manufacturing base at our peril. Not only is it vital for our economy, but it's great for our national identity too.

There's no point in buying a British built product that's obviously uncompetitive. However, many people usually ignore the British product and head straight to the VW / Audi / Skoda / Hyundai etc showrooms first, like a load of sheep, without even bothering to check out the locally built alternative. If I were wrong, then the roads would be full of Jaguar XF's and BMW 5 Series would be a rare sight indeed Rolling Eyes

(I'm just going to pause for a second, while I savour that thought!)....

I feel a great deal of pride in seeking out the quality British alternative and am prepared to pay a little bit more for a premium product, that's why there are two late 90's Triumphs in my garage and a Freelander 2 parked outside. Unfortunately there's nothing to compete with the Focus RS that shares the garage with the 'bikes, but Ford employ many thousands of UK workers in design and manufacturing, so I can live with that.


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