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chrisdeeming

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Top gear

After dreaming about many unusual things last night one being taking my car to a car wash and they crashed it and gave me £3.50 to replace the front bumper, I realised,

whilst watching top gear the other night Jame's May was talking about a 2 stroke saab and was saying you had to use the accelerator and the brake to lube the engine down hill ? could he not of just depressed the clutch as the engine would still be idling sucking in fuel mixture :S, then his brakes wouldn't of boiled over.

Not sure if it was an auto but even if it was surely if the rev counter says the engine is working at 3000rpm etc.. then its still drawing in fuel from the tank thus lubing the engine :s..

28th Feb 2012 7:54 am

Tigger

Member Since: 30 Mar 2011
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Not only that, but I used to ride two stroke motorcycles that never seemed to mind being ridden down a hill, in gear, with the throttle shut. Naff all engine breaking to be had, but they didn't seem to suffer any lubrication failure as a result.

28th Feb 2012 8:15 am

Reeventu

Member Since: 16 Jan 2011
Location: Hampshire
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just the typical twaddle that these guys come out with.

I thoughtfor once it may have been a sensible article but as usual it was rubbish...

No mention of the success of the early 96 in rallying , no mention of the the rally drivers just, letspick on one model and say it was the only good car.

The programme is really pants now and they should get rid of the fat old bald bloke , get the posing hamster a cage and give James May another serious programme with a light hearted touch.

If the BEEB do no binit soon I for one will be surprised.

As the alternative is the Antiques Roadshow I still watch the programme ( how sad am I ??)

28th Feb 2012 10:31 am

EYorkshire

Member Since: 18 Nov 2010
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If watching 'Top Gear' makes you 'sad'

I never watch 'Top Gear' but instead watch the 'Antiques Roadshow', what does that make me
(opens myself up to verbal abuse)

28th Feb 2012 11:13 am

iain cooper

Member Since: 27 Aug 2007
Location: north of Glasgow
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Reeventu wrote:
just the typical twaddle that these guys come out with.

I thoughtfor once it may have been a sensible article but as usual it was rubbish...

No mention of the success of the early 96 in rallying , no mention of the the rally drivers just, letspick on one model and say it was the only good car.

The programme is really pants now and they should get rid of the fat old bald bloke , get the posing hamster a cage and give James May another serious programme with a light hearted touch.

If the BEEB do no binit soon I for one will be surprised.

As the alternative is the Antiques Roadshow I still watch the programme ( how sad am I ??)

I agree entirely, but usually watch/record it hoping for something interesting and worthwhile, as it used to be.

but I'm always disappointed.............................

watching Jeremy Clarkson abuse supercars is not my idea of good viewing, and why the BBC pay him to either do this or come out with stupid derogatory statements, etc is beyond me !!

I used to enjoy Jeremy, but he is beyond his sell by date and should not be presenting Top Gear now.

Iain

ps Fifth Gear in my opinion was better viewing

28th Feb 2012 11:19 am

MANUFAN

Member Since: 10 Dec 2011
Location: Manchester
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Agree with all the above 100%
Middle age men trying to regain their lost youth at the expense of the licence payer. This parrot is definitely dead.

28th Feb 2012 12:51 pm

RazMan

Member Since: 18 Nov 2011
Location: Essexshire
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Come on guys, its not meant to be a serious car testing program - just an entertainment program that happens to have some car related stuff in it. The 'road tests' are nothing more than comedy sketches with cars involved. Even the 'star in a reasonably priced car' is just a bit of fun for the celebs.
Once you look at it from that angle, it all becomes clear.

The program format is still popular though, and it has been copied in several countries so they must be doing something right to attract so many viewers. Anyway, where else could you see so many caravans (quite rightly) blown to bits? Cheers,
Raz
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28th Feb 2012 1:04 pm

MANUFAN

Member Since: 10 Dec 2011
Location: Manchester
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Watching Top Gear now is like watching a much loved Uncle on the dance floor at a wedding. You still love him but you wish he would sit down and stop making a prat of himself

28th Feb 2012 1:56 pm

iain cooper

Member Since: 27 Aug 2007
Location: north of Glasgow
Posts: 1989

MANUFAN wrote:
Watching Top Gear now is like watching a much loved Uncle on the dance floor at a wedding. You still love him but you wish he would sit down and stop making a prat of himself

my sentiments exactly, and a brilliant analogy

Iain

28th Feb 2012 2:03 pm

RazMan

Member Since: 18 Nov 2011
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 336

MANUFAN wrote:
Watching Top Gear now is like watching a much loved Uncle on the dance floor at a wedding. You still love him but you wish he would sit down and stop making a prat of himself

But it is still a giggle to watch him making a prat of himself

Cheers,
Raz
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28th Feb 2012 2:04 pm

athelstan

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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Tigger wrote:
Not only that, but I used to ride two stroke motorcycles that never seemed to mind being ridden down a hill, in gear, with the throttle shut. Naff all engine breaking to be had, but they didn't seem to suffer any lubrication failure as a result.

Neither did/does my SILK 700s - but then again George Silk did design a brilliantly effective 2Stroke oil delivery system.

28th Feb 2012 3:13 pm

RegG

Member Since: 06 Oct 2011
Location: Nottinghamshire
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Re: Top gear

chrisdeeming wrote:
whilst watching top gear the other night Jame's May was talking about a 2 stroke saab and was saying you had to use the accelerator and the brake to lube the engine down hill ? could he not of just depressed the clutch as the engine would still be idling sucking in fuel mixture :S, then his brakes wouldn't of boiled over.

Not sure if it was an auto but even if it was surely if the rev counter says the engine is working at 3000rpm etc.. then its still drawing in fuel from the tank thus lubing the engine :s..

Haven't watched this programme yet but I can possibly throw some light on what James May was talking about. The 2 stroke Saab 96 (and the 96 V4's too) had a freewheel device - when you took your foot off the accelerator the car would go into freewheel mode. It was possible to lock the freewheel to obtain engine breaking but there was very little of this on the 2 stroke engine. The 96 2 stroke was a brilliant little car that could be thrown about with ease, probably explaining why it won the Monte Carlo Rally three years on the trot in the hands of Erik Carlsson. 2010 HSE TD4 auto, Biscay Blue, Almond Leather, facelift front and rear, detachable towbar, front & rear mudflaps, bib spoilers, clear high level brake light, smooth rear wiper, colour coded door handles.

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28th Feb 2012 3:47 pm

Captain Worm

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Come on guys - get some perspective. It's an infotainment program about cars - it is not some documentary on discovery. It is supposed to be funny, provide some eacapism, stretch the truth a little and generally be entertaining!

Besides, I think topgear is one of the top grossing brands for the BBC so why would they want to get rid? Freelander 2 TD4 Auto, SE, Narvik Black, Alpaca full leather, Rear Headrest Entertainment System, 6 CD, 18 HSE Wheels, Privicy tints

28th Feb 2012 10:00 pm

The Doctor

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I agree Captain Worm. I admit it is past it's peak but I enjoy it anyway predictable or not. Clarkson still makes me laugh and they mock their own show when it is nominated at the TV awards for best factual programme. They always say it doesn't have facts in it. I hope it continues even though it needs altering to freshen it up.

I also ask for Clarksons new book each Christmas. Always a good light hearted and funny read LL.B (Hons) - University of Derby
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28th Feb 2012 10:16 pm

Pegleg

Member Since: 15 Apr 2010
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EYorkshire wrote:
If watching 'Top Gear' makes you 'sad'

I never watch 'Top Gear' but instead watch the 'Antiques Roadshow', what does that make me
(opens myself up to verbal abuse)

You're not on your own EY! I aslo watch 'Antiques' instead of the blithering three idoits on the other BBC channel.

Top Gear is Top Pants as far as i'm concerned. Does for the average motorist what Hitler did for peace.

Utter s

te! Another member of the failed FL2 clutch/DMF club, twice.

28th Feb 2012 10:20 pm

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