Than you may go ahead as discribed.
Please inform of your experience.
YF

YF
You have said a couple of times not to use fully synthetic. Is this just because of the price. I have a litre or so and don't want to throw it away

Sam, for two reasons:
1. the price
2. if you should have a DPF, the ash content of sythetic 2-T oils is higher, as this oil is ment to burn.

YF

YF I found some Esso 2t mineral oil JASO FB can i used it.

yamaha-fan wrote:

Meanwhile the "2-stroke-oil to diesel" issue has attracted the interest of a number of Universities in Germany, as this 2-stroke oil has shown to have amazing poperties if added in a small dosis to diesel fuel (1:200), especially the positive impact on air pollution, reduced fuel consumption and improved long term reliability of the diesel engine. The pro and con discussions will go on for a while. But as soon as an accademic report has been published by one of our Universities, this will change very fast.

YF

HI Yamaha-Fan If you ran the car on 5% bio diesel would that give you the same effect as the 2 Stroke as in the cleaning.As bio diesel is a mild solvent to clean the engine and the oil properties in vegetable oil for the lubrication? 07my Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Baltic Blue,Privacy Glass,Ebony black leather,Land rover detachable towbar,S/S Side bars,Climair wind deflectors,Bramble Rash,

scotster wrote:

Builder.

I just ordered mine from LM spares as it works out cheaper at £17-61 v £19 at the other site. Postage there was a fiver.

Good find! I let you know if my engine explodes.

Hi wildrover.

Well it didn't blow up yet!

Unfortunately I don't drive the car much (the wife does) so the noise at start up is hard for me to judge objectively. I would say it is quieter but it could be the power of suggestion doing that.

Certainly haven't seen plumes of blue smoke and no idea on mpg as I don't track it......so I'm not much help really.

I can say the website delivered in 5 days and the oil doesn't have any standard markings on apart from that to confirm that its mineral 2 stroke oil. I haven't used this cheaper 2 stroke oil yet as I am still finishing off the castrol.

I guess with the cheap stuff you are saving a massive £1 a fill up versus buying for example the castrol. I originally bought at around £6 per bottle. As I only fill up around twice a month I may eventually go back to the more expensive variety when I have used up my cheap stuff (in about a year!) for piece of mind. Probably a quid a fill wasted..but hey ho. '57 GS TD4 in Stornoway. Privacy, Leather, Tred Cills. From ebay etc.. 18" 12 spoke HSE alloys, rear spoiler, clear side repeaters with clear leds, led interior light to replace bulbs, sports exhaust trim, TomTom 720.
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Sorry guys, I have been on a longer business trip to India and only returned today.
To answer the 2 questions:

No, there are no official reports from the testing Universities yet. The tests are scheduled for 6 to 9 months, so the best what will be available are intermediate reports. I will enquire and find out what the present status is.

Bio diesel is chemically very agressive, that is the reason why the mix with normal diesel is limited to 5% (at the moment). Bio diesel does not grease better than normal diesel, so the addition of the recommended dosis 2-T oil is the right thing to do.

By the way, our Mercedes A-Class 180 cdi is driven with 2-T oil from day 1, and the bi-annually check-up by the TUV (Technical Verification Authoritiy) has shown during the exhaust-fume test that the allowable limits are more than 30% lower. The Test-Engineer could not believe it and has repeated the test as he thought that the test instrument had a defect.
But it didn't.

YF

yf im just a little confused , you say to use jasco fc or above , these are usually semi synthetic ,but i see a couple of people putting mineral oil in .when ive looked these all seem to be jasco fb. are these ok.

YF I found some Esso 2t mineral oil JASO FB can i used it.

Bio diesel is chemically very agressive, that is the reason why the mix with normal diesel is limited to 5% (at the moment). Bio diesel does not grease better than normal diesel, so the addition of the recommended dosis 2-T oil is the right thing to do.

YF[/quote]


This is a site i came accross...you might find it interesting though contoversial....

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177728

Hi geoff239 and efthys,

for both of you - yes, you can use it.
Geoff239, please read my comments carefully: I said that the TD4 with DPF (diesel particulate filter) should loook for a 2-T oil with the lowest ash content you can find. The ash content is defined by the Jasco norm (besides others). So if you do not have a DPF your choice of 2-T oil is only restricted by the price, as 2-T oil in general burnes cleaner than diesel.
For diesel engines with DPF the semi-synthetic Liqui Moli no. 1052 has proved to be the most suitable product.

YF

yf thanks for the reply ,understand everything now .

nickkuts wrote:

Bio diesel is chemically very agressive, that is the reason why the mix with normal diesel is limited to 5% (at the moment). Bio diesel does not grease better than normal diesel, so the addition of the recommended dosis 2-T oil is the right thing to do.

YF

nickkuts wrote.

This is a site i came accross...you might find it interesting though contoversial....

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177728[/quote]

Hi YF. Have you tried the above web site shown in nikkuts post. If so what are your thoughts