there seems to be a few auto boxes going down latley most seem to be 07/08 my vehicles what milliage are these failing at is there a paticular defect in the box or are the auto boxes crap lots of people call the manual freelanders with early duel mass fly wheel failure but would rather pay 800 pounds to fix than 3k plus has anybody looked into this to see if there is a faulty batch of boxes failing early  rainy-city
xs

There has been some discussion about this. It revolves around the fact these boxes are "sealed for life/maintenance free" for 150k miles. Under the statement they shouldn't fail early

So far there has been a goodwill gesture from LR to the tune of around £1800 (IIRC). Somebody is involved in research under the Sale of Goods Act and also Trading Standards who seem to be coming down on the side of the consumer against LR.

Do a search and you will find a longish thread about it.

Ok ... saved you the bother! Click here

edited to add URL Freelander 1 TD4 HSE - gone, 2 weeks after the Cat.Converter!
Freelander 2 TD4 SE Auto MY08 - Santorini black

Q059 for the replacement of the auto box in Eastern European boxes shows only top up ATF is required and also one supplier of the box (LR034030) says it is prefilled and only requires a top up when fitted. I need to get the official LR statement on this as I was charged £230 for filling my replacement gearbox with ATF!
Thanks, Mike

razmabaz wrote:

There has been some discussion about this. It revolves around the fact these boxes are "sealed for life Click here

edited to add URL

Sealed for life, a wonderful term used an awful lot for mechanical things, who's life I always wonder?
If its like Life Imprisonment, about 4 months then

Mona Geeza wrote:

razmabaz wrote:

There has been some discussion about this. It revolves around the fact these boxes are "sealed for life Click here

edited to add URL

Sealed for life, a wonderful term used an awful lot for mechanical things, who's life I always wonder?
If its like Life Imprisonment, about 4 months then

Sealed for the life of the box. Therefore, if fluid degradation causes the failure of the box they can say that the fluid was good for the life of the box !!  FL2 HSE Auto Galway Green
Evoque SD4 Auto Blue.
FL1 HSE TD4 Manual Black - Gone.
RR Classic V8 EFI - Gone

Does Sealed for life tell me that the box when delivered to the LR dealer is filled with ATF?

clockwisemike wrote:

Does Sealed for life tell me that the box when delivered to the LR dealer is filled with ATF?

Ive never known a replacement box come filled with lubricant, as yet, and if it was and its delivered by the couriers it will arrive upside down and the fluid will be coating the back floor of the van.
Also the fluid would add to the delivery weights and costs, its so much easier to deliver then tell you to go and get some to put in.

I wonder why in Q059 they only allow the fitting garage to claim only for top up ATF.

has anybody thought of emailing l/rover or the dealer and asked how long the g/box should last after all these units must be tested by l/rover quality assurance from there supplier and do we know what other vehicles these boxes are fitted to and has that car maker had any premature failures, may be worth a close look for you guys where the g box has failed  rainy-city
xs

These box's are in a huge variety of cars AFAIK. Peugeots, LR's, Japanese stuff etc.

I have banged on an on to LR about our failure and how it is out of order - the key point being if the first service / maintenance due is not til 10yrs, or 150,000miles, then failure at 5 years, and 51,000 is unacceptable.

ALL they reply to me is that the vehicle is out of the warranty and they feel very charitable to see me right to the tune of 33%

Warranty and SoG act are not the same.

On the other hand, I do contest the FR2 WITH the Auto is a far far better suited package than in a manual format.

If the issue is oil degredation, and the 150k service interval is too long. Has anyone actually changed the oil in their auto box?? Gone - TD4 XS Auto, Sumatra Black, Mud flaps and side strips, clear indicators, private plate, privacy glass

philsh wrote:

If the issue is oil degredation, and the 150k service interval is too long. Has anyone actually changed the oil in their auto box??

Reeventu wrote:

philsh wrote:

If the issue is oil degredation, and the 150k service interval is too long. Has anyone actually changed the oil in their auto box??

BMW gearboxes are sealed for life BUT there seems to be a trend by those that know ( mainly independents ) to change the oil and filter at around 80k.

The parts are available so I suspect they are also available for LR models!

Has anybody asked ??

I'm going to ask my dealer and will post the response......  Gone - TD4 XS Auto, Sumatra Black, Mud flaps and side strips, clear indicators, private plate, privacy glass

My dealer has just quoted me 341 quid, all in

Apparently the oil is 20 + VAT per litre and it requires 7 litres, add on the labour and it's a hideous total Gone - TD4 XS Auto, Sumatra Black, Mud flaps and side strips, clear indicators, private plate, privacy glass

£341...... might save you a £3,200 bill I have for a Box !