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majorguk



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United Kingdom 2008 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Zermatt Silver
newbie question

Hi all

Quick question so i dont break anything on my new motor can i use hill decent and or terrin reponse while.moving?
Loving the forum and be sure to have more questions

Graeme[/list][/url]

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Bill Turner



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Quick answer Yes but! read the manual to get the best info.

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rchrdleigh



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Answer is yes on both counts.
However, Hill Descent will only work properly in 1st Gear in a manual. You can adjust the speed of descent using the + and - buttons on your cruise control.
No problem with changing Terrain Response settings on the move the system is designed to cope with it. However, it is generally not recommended to use the terrain response settings other than in the conditions they are designed for. That said when sitting in slow moving traffic use of Grass Gravel Snow makes life easier.

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majorguk



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Spot on fella cheers.

I was driving a passat before and found comments and experience help from other forums rather than reading the hand book.

One question how does grass gravel and snow setting help in traffic?

Graeme

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majorguk wrote:
how does grass gravel and snow setting help in traffic?

Graeme


Hi Graeme in what respect do you ask? Do you mean on a snowy road in traffic - if so it puts the car in 4wd, alters throttle response and generally tries to stop you doing things that would cause the wheels to spin etc.

Try and avoid using the terrain response settings when the conditions don't require it.

I'd recomend going on one of the LR experience sessions if you can - the cheapest quick experience is at the Gaydon Motor Heritage centre near Banbury. £5 (£7 weekends) for a 20 minute hoot up and down and around and around a special off road experience - very knowledgeable instructor too

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majorguk wrote:
how does grass gravel and snow setting help in traffic?


Gives you slightly less responsive throttle so you don't end up over-revving and using the expensive diesel Smile 2008 FL2 TD4 XS Zermatt Silver, Manual
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taztastic



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Stick it in sand mode and sod the expense Laughing

I think in GGS it also starts in second gear, so it makes for a leisurely crawl, although forgetting to revert back will hit fuel economy I imagine.

The thing that I find a pain is having to press the brake to get back to "D" from "N" on the autobox as it locks out unless the brake is pressed, most cars dont have this?

Graeme, I have tried allsorts without breasking things, most scary was hitting the HDC button going downhill, the noise it started to make, I thought the wheels were coming off!!!

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Seeing Graeme has a manual it will be a first if it starts in second when he's in first Confused Laughing

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EYorkshire wrote:
Seeing Graeme has a manual it will be a first if it starts in second when he's in first Confused Laughing

Laughing

Mine has always started off in second, even with the Terrain Response off, the only way mine uses first is in command shift if I pull the stick, I did query this at the first service and they said it was normal. The only other time it uses first is on a hill start when towing, it will try second then drops to first.

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Mine starts in first every time in 'normal mode', starts in second in 'sport mode' unless I shift in to first in 'command mode'.
Is this what you mean Andy?

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HDC will only come on below a certain speed, even if you switch it on until you drop below that speed it will not kick in (unless the software is faulty), it will also eat away your pads at a very high rate, so only use it when required (ie on a very steep slope)

Terrain Responce, you can change programs at any speed, it will not do any damage or anything as the car would lock anything up unless your with criterea

GGS is good in crawlling traffic as it lessons the throttle responce, so your easing on the power more than normal

Sand is good for faster dashing out of junctions as it expects the wheels to spin (but when they don't that provides faster forward movement), more active throttle too Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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EYorkshire wrote:
Mine starts in first every time in 'normal mode', starts in second in 'sport mode' unless I shift in to first in 'command mode'.
Is this what you mean Andy?


Dave, no, it always pulls away in second, as for Sport Mode, to be honest I never use it, Sd4 like you Whistle that's I know that when in command shift it displays second and pull the stick for first and it's like engaging crawler, hence I know that in auto I'm in second, but as I say when with the van on a hill it will start to pull away in second but immediately drops to first when required. If I really gun it, pedal on the floor then it will engage first but for normal refined auto Censored driving it will pull away in second. As mentioned earlier, they said at the first service it was normal, they did explain that it will choose what gear depending on a number of things, throttle position etc, I don't have a problem with it.

As for the Auto box, can't go back to a manual now, Auto and Freelander 2 = Peaches and Cream Whistle

I must have had some odd Freely's because on my manual one, I know what the book says about HDC but mine worked in second also, but the other gears it would say HDC not available.

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EYorkshire wrote:
Seeing Graeme has a manual it will be a first if it starts in second when he's in first Confused Laughing


I forgot they still do DIY boxes Laughing

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Go on I'll say it again ... Whistle

Isn't the auto starting in 2nd gear solved by the fitting of an earth cable to the gearbox Very Happy


My advice to driving these wonderful vehicles - is similar to that described by a helicopter pilot - try it - if it works then remember how you did it for next time.... Thumbs Up 2002 Honda VFR800
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EYorkshire



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ad210358 wrote:

Dave, no, it always pulls away in second


Oh! I know mine always pulls away in first because I can hear the faint whine of the first gear. To be honest I would prefer it to pull away in second as it's more than capable and 95% of the time there's only me in the car.
I know I have the latest updates and more than likely you have too, wonder why there's a difference Confused

I agree, Auto and Freelander 2 = CG's Scones and Jam Whistle

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