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Who is using 2 Stroke Oil
Yes - and my FL is quieter
36%
 36%  [54]
Yes - But I cannot tell if my FL is quieter
10%
 10%  [15]
Yes - No, It is not quieter
2%
 2%  [3]
No - I am not using 2 Stroke oil
51%
 51%  [75]
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yamaha-fan



Member Since: 11 Jun 2007
Location: Munich
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Germany 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

You are most welcome, CK.
I would use any of the two 2-T oils, whichever I would get cheaper.
You can also use the Mobil Extra 2T.
Important is, that those 2T-oils should comply with JASCO "FC" or ISO L-E "GC" or "GD", which should be written on the bottle. All 2T-oils as per these norms burn with an ash content of less than 0,05%.

YF

Post #10404 21st Nov 2007 11:22 am
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jimmy



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CK wrote:
YF, a question if I may,
Would it be ok to use Shell Advance VSX2 2 stroke semi-synthetic oil for this purpose?
I also came across Shell Advance Scooter 2, would that do the trick too?
Any preference between the two?

Cheers,
CK


Hi CK,

I used Shell Advance VSX2 2 stroke semi-synthetic (0.5 ltr not 0.33 ltr - woops !) - and everything is fine so far as I can tell. The engine runs quieter from starting up, compared to using the normal diesel. I got my girlfriend to rev the engine & I looked at the exhaust gasses before and after adding the 2 stroke oil. Before there was some (not much actually) colouration being light brown / grey. Afterwards - I'm hard pressed to see anything. Maybe I'm hearing and seeing things - but I don't think so.

br jimmy

Post #10409 21st Nov 2007 12:48 pm
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CK



Member Since: 20 Nov 2007
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YF,
One more oil check please... Wink
I found a cheaper 2 stroke oil in a local esso station, it is called "esso special 2T".
The bottle reads it complies with JASO FC, ISO E-GC, E-GD.
Is that good enough? It didn't have the ISO L-E as you mentioned.

Cheers,
CK

Post #10420 21st Nov 2007 3:05 pm
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yamaha-fan



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Yes, absolutely no objection.
Mobile Extra 2-T and Esso Special 2-T are the same.

YF

Post #10451 22nd Nov 2007 5:43 am
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wildrover



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I thought some members might be interested in these links.

http://www.fofh.u-net.com/tvo.htm

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbth...d/1#import

good reading.

Yamaha Fan, guru of all things oily and technical... Thumbs Up Bow down Out with the old (2007 SE)
In with the new (2012 Dynamic with everything). Now also gone.

Post #10668 26th Nov 2007 4:39 pm
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CK



Member Since: 20 Nov 2007
Location: UK
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Hi all,
Couple of observations after using 2T oil with the last two tanks...

1) Don't know if the start-up itself is any smoother as it used to start nicely before, but it is definetly much quieter, especially in the mornings with cold starts.

2) Engine is running significantly quieter, especially in the 1500-1800 rpm range where it used to be a little flat and more on the noisy side when stuck in traffic going up hill. In fact, engine is so quiet now across the board that now I can hear some irritating noises coming from the driver's B pillar... guess its time to take it apart...

3) Couldn't see any difference in smoke, no noticeable smoke before and no smoke after.

4) Not 100% sure, but exhaust seems to smell a little different, more like the old diesel used to smell. It might be just because I actually tried to smell it now, so maybe just psychological (or Tesco's diesel that I put in last time).

5) Too early to tell if there is any mpg impact, but its certainly not worse than before. There is probably a slight improvement, but I can't contribute that to either or both the 2T oil or the engine breaking in.

To me the benefits right now seems at least as having a quieter and smoother engine, which is probaly worth it on its on. I will have to wait and see the effect on engine or turbo blades wear in 80k, but so far so good.
Seems like I'll keep adding 300ml of 2T oil every refill.

Next on the to do list is an oil change at 2000 miles. Maybe I'm being old fashioned, but I just can't think of letting a new engine run with the same oil for 15000 miles Shocked

Anyone in the UK tried bringing his/her own oil for the dealer to use?
When I was in the US, my Mazda dealer actualy refused to use the oil I provided, even though it met all necessary Mazda standards.

Cheers,
CK

Post #11068 2nd Dec 2007 2:33 am
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chrisaviss



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CK - I changed engine lube on my auto for Castrol 'Edge' a couple of k miles ago (@6k). Surprisingly, fuel consumption has improved already by >6%. Engine starts better (and quieter) and is also more quiet when running, especially in town when engine up to temp.

Post #11119 2nd Dec 2007 10:32 pm
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chrisaviss



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...and my friendly dealer did it with their usual friendliness.

Post #11120 2nd Dec 2007 10:33 pm
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Dave Wilkin



Member Since: 17 Sep 2007
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Hi,

Which grade of oil did you change to:

-Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W40

-Castrol Edge TD 0W30
-Castrol Edge Formula RS 0W40

I ask because I do not want to run the risk of running my FL2 for 15k miles from new before an oil change.

Dave GS TD4 All Black

Post #11426 9th Dec 2007 4:57 pm
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chrisaviss



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Fuel cons - lube type

David
Castrol Edge Formula RS 0W40 is the one I chose.

Post #11433 9th Dec 2007 5:56 pm
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chrisaviss



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Engine Lube Oil

....but the "Edge" costs about the same as gin, maybe more!

Post #11435 9th Dec 2007 6:00 pm
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Dave Wilkin



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Back in the late sixties/early seventies Castrol R was used in the prody racers and gave you the squits, I have to assume Castrol Edge Formula RS 0W40 will do the same so I doubt whether I will be adding this to my tonic Laughing

Thanks GS TD4 All Black

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yamaha-fan



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Excellent oil, the only fully synthetic motor oil suitable for diesel engines with DPF!

YF

Post #11486 11th Dec 2007 11:11 am
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geoff239



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back to the 2t oil i put some in my old p38 range rover last night . engine a lot quieter on starting .usually slow starting but fired straight away, no cloud of smoke and soot . am getting my freelander 2 tomorrow will definitely think of putting it in that . yf keep up your informative posts.

Post #11598 12th Dec 2007 4:31 pm
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builder



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England 

geoff239 wrote:
back to the 2t oil i put some in my old p38 range rover last night . engine a lot quieter on starting .usually slow starting but fired straight away, no cloud of smoke and soot . am getting my freelander 2 tomorrow will definitely think of putting it in that . yf keep up your informative posts.


I would like to second that statement regarding the informative posts. Since joining the forum I have picked up a lot of helpful tips and advice that would otherwise not have been so easily availabe.

Thanks yamaha-fan and indeed all of you who contribute useful information to this forum Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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