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Tigger



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sweetfreedom wrote:
Will be interesting to see howw many orders are cancelled.... If the Evoke really does sell as well as they think mid spec upwards (GS+) FL2's figures will take one hell of a bashing.


Land Rover are very clear that they expect the Freelander and the Evoke to compete in very different markets. They expect that 90% of the customers for the Evoke will be new to the brand.

I'm looking forward to going to the launch in September but I know one thing for certain; it might (or might not) look great, but there is no way on earth that I would replace my Freelander with one! The Freelander is massively practical, while the Range Rover is for the fashion conscious who don't own any practical shoes or any jeans (or socks for that matter) with holes in them! The Range Rover will hurt the sales of Audi, BMW, Lexus and the like - not the Freelander.

I just don't think I'll like the kind of Audi / BMW & Lexus 4x4 driving people it'll attract, that's all! Rolling Eyes

Post #111476 29th Aug 2011 7:33 pm
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sweetfreedom



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Tigger wrote:
sweetfreedom wrote:
Will be interesting to see howw many orders are cancelled.... If the Evoke really does sell as well as they think mid spec upwards (GS+) FL2's figures will take one hell of a bashing.


Land Rover are very clear that they expect the Freelander and the Evoke to compete in very different markets. They expect that 90% of the customers for the Evoke will be new to the brand.

I'm looking forward to going to the launch in September but I know one thing for certain; it might (or might not) look great, but there is no way on earth that I would replace my Freelander with one! The Freelander is massively practical, while the Range Rover is for the fashion conscious who don't own any practical shoes or any jeans (or socks for that matter) with holes in them! The Range Rover will hurt the sales of Audi, BMW, Lexus and the like - not the Freelander.

I just don't think I'll like the kind of Audi / BMW & Lexus 4x4 driving people it'll attract, that's all! Rolling Eyes


In an ideal world that would be the case for landrover but I don't believe that's what will happen. FL2's in high spec ahve always been considered 'expensive' and I would think lots of those owners would look at the Evoke. In that overlap area landrover will expect sales to swop over. Sure, the FL is more ptractical than the 3 door but there isn't much between the FL and the 5 door.

I know of at least three FL2 owners with Evokes on order...

Maybe a facelift FL or FL3 will help? FL2 GS Auto '58reg

Post #111518 30th Aug 2011 7:29 am
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Tim in Scotland



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There are at least 6 convertees from F2 to Evoque from this forum.......................... How can carbon have a footprint, it has no feet?
Now driving - RRE Coupe Dynamic Lux Auto with Plus pack, Fuji White, Ebony, SD4 with tow pack
Gone - 2010MY FFRR TDv8 Stornoway and Ivory, Privacy - the pace of a TDv8 RRS, the incomparable grace of a Range Rover
Gone but will be missed- RRS Tdv8 HSE Stornoway Grey with Ebony Leather
Gone (only a little missed) RRS Tdv6 2.7SE Giverny Green/Aspen
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Post #111537 30th Aug 2011 9:39 am
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Tigger



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Interesting.

Mind you, if I'd had the budget for a top spec HSE Freelander, I wouldn't have bought a Freelander in the first place! Like many cars, the top spec version usually represents the poorest VFM and you are better off getting a more basic version of something that's fundamentally a bit nicer. On that basis, I'd rather have a poverty spec Disco than a top spec Freelander (if only it weren't for the fuel consumption....)

Post #111556 30th Aug 2011 12:18 pm
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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 SD4 GS Auto Ipanema Sand

On the M40 this morning and transporters full of Evoques pouring out of somewhere ???, appeared to be in the Gaydon area.
Assume they are on the way to dealers for the launch day, still unsure about the low rear roof design but dealer I spoke to said the floor pan had been lowered so head room not compromised. Freelander 2 GS 2011(facelift)
SD4 Auto
Ipanema sand
17inch 5 spoke alloys
Screen and washer heaters
Front Parking sensors
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Post #111577 30th Aug 2011 3:43 pm
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sweetfreedom



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Evoke could well spell good news for true FL devoties, surely be advance payment deals will extend across the range and hopefully some spec upgrades....

This happened of course with the RR sport when it arrived, LR insisted that it would be an entirely new niche area but of course lots of buyers came from RR and disco, along with granted quite a few from BM and Merc....
Still, a very good vehicle for LR but I'm not a fan, looking under the rear end tells you why...all that height but so much stuff to drag around underneath!

We travel off road most days in our FL2 and Jeep GC FL2 GS Auto '58reg

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Mona Geeza



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landy19840 wrote:
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Loads more on the way home


Assume you took the photo using hands free? ie, not holding the steering wheel, :lol:

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Israel 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Zermatt Silver

Hands free being the mrs took it? Either that or I have super long arms

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Post #111614 30th Aug 2011 7:55 pm
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Scaramanga wrote:
On the M40 this morning and transporters full of Evoques pouring out of somewhere ???, appeared to be in the Gaydon area.
Assume they are on the way to dealers for the launch day, still unsure about the low rear roof design but dealer I spoke to said the floor pan had been lowered so head room not compromised.


Could well be on their way to Gaydon. LRE Instructors are being trained on Evoke next week and LRE Centres are due to receive their first Evokes in early September.

Post #111620 30th Aug 2011 8:12 pm
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Tigger



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rchrdleigh wrote:
Scaramanga wrote:
On the M40 this morning and transporters full of Evoques pouring out of somewhere ???, appeared to be in the Gaydon area.
Assume they are on the way to dealers for the launch day, still unsure about the low rear roof design but dealer I spoke to said the floor pan had been lowered so head room not compromised.


Could well be on their way to Gaydon. LRE Instructors are being trained on Evoke next week and LRE Centres are due to receive their first Evokes in early September.


All of the LRE cars will all be silver though. Beware 6 month old, low mileage, ex "Land Rover Management" cars in silver! Rolling Eyes

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England 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Baltic Blue

If rumours are to be believed not all LRE cars will be silver in future.

Post #112482 8th Sep 2011 1:03 pm
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United Kingdom 2011 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Sumatra Black

I saw a black one today near the local Marshals LR Garage and then noticed a white one outside the showroom.

Have to say from the brief glimpse I caught of it, I find the Freelander2 far more aesthetically pleasing in comparison. Sure the Evoque may have a better interior but that's all it has over the FL2. Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual MY11 - 61REG Stratstone Mayfair
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Post #112622 9th Sep 2011 5:28 pm
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R1JIM



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Auto Sumatra Black

3 new ones awaiting collection buy thier lucky owners at hunters in norwich this moring, 2 white 4 doors and 1 grey 3 door, look real good !!! TO DARE IS TO DO

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Spotted one black, 5 doors, in Boulogne Billancourt, France, with regular number plates.

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shilen



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I know its been mentioned that the Evoque will have an impact on the FL2 but surely it will have more of an impact on the FFRR and RRS? I mean how different are a 5 door Evoque, Range Rover Sport and Range Rover (other than price!)

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