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The Doc Member Since: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 704 |
They are a great car - lovin using the Mrs one at the mo |
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3rd Feb 2010 11:02 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
Evening Doc. |
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3rd Feb 2010 11:05 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
This has finally I think clome to and happy ending, I have picked my freel 2 up tonight and all seems well, after a little over a month in surgery she is home.
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17th Feb 2010 7:42 pm |
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mcphersonstrut Member Since: 21 Jul 2009 Location: In the land of 2 wheel drive and 60mpg Posts: 2164 |
We like stories like these...yippee |
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17th Feb 2010 8:00 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
Atlast does that mean I have to stop laughing now At work
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17th Feb 2010 8:07 pm |
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Boxer Member Since: 26 Dec 2009 Location: S Wales Posts: 354 |
Good result. well done. Don't put petrol in a diesel. They don't run well. |
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17th Feb 2010 8:10 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
After today perhaps i should also |
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17th Feb 2010 8:15 pm |
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alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4642 |
Doesn't have "microscopic wires" in it. The "reluckter ring" as you've said it, is a ring shaped piece that has attached to it a magnetic band with an exact number of magnetic poles, minus one pole/gap. This gap is used by the ECM (Engine Control Module) as a reference for the crankshaft position. The crankshaft position sensor is a pulse generator which scans the target ring/wheel and uses the Hall effect principle to read the magnetic stripe. I am surprised that they didn't find this problem sooner because the lack of or a faulty crankshaft sensor signal leads to engine stall and compulsory stores a P0336 error in the ECM module. A simple read of the ECM trouble codes (and of course a proper interpretation ) will lead you directly to the cause. |
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17th Feb 2010 8:33 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
Hey alex, i can only say what they said I expected either yourself, Lar or Roverland to understand this more, it seems that if it was the sensor it would throw up a code but because of it being the ring it fails to give a code.
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17th Feb 2010 9:07 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
I shall translate = your dealership is full of idiots (pc translation to suit the mood ) At work At home "I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens winner by default of the tractor vs caravan race |
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17th Feb 2010 9:14 pm |
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ad210358 Member Since: 12 Oct 2008 Location: Here and There Posts: 7464 |
I have actually warmed to the dealer a bit as they it seems on problems like this are not allowed to think for themselves but take on what LR say as it is warranty etc, they cannot fit anything without approval from LR, so the say that the dealership was not so clever is a little harsh I feel. |
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17th Feb 2010 9:20 pm |
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chicken george Member Since: 05 Dec 2007 Location: N. Yorks Posts: 13289 |
So the land rover warranty desk is staffed by idiots ?? Are they the guys I used to employ picking potatoes.
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17th Feb 2010 9:55 pm |
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alex_pescaru Member Since: 12 Mar 2009 Location: RO Posts: 4642 |
Not quite... Those two are working together. Either the sensor or the ring, the result is the same: missing impulses on the sensor output => engine halted and error code stored. The ECM constantly monitors the time between impulses and if the difference between the last two impulses is greater than the previous ones, minus a reasonable amount given by the normal variation of the engine RPM, it automatically stops the engine and throws the error code. This sensor/ring pair is one of the most important for proper engine functioning, because without their/its information, the ECM doesn't know the position of the crank and therefore, when to inject the fuel. A proper workshop practice requires to change both: first the sensor and then, if no result, the ring. |
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18th Feb 2010 7:05 am |
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The Doc Member Since: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 704 |
Glad its all worked out for you mate |
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18th Feb 2010 9:37 am |
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