AD210358: Yes I tried them all and a honda crv, nissan x-trail, vauxhall antara and cant agree more the FL2 without a doubt was streaks ahead.

DRUAND: I was lead to believe jap takes the lead for reliability so ur post throws that ! Perhaps it was the Toyota gararage that told me

CARAVAN GEORGE: Seems you have the same scenario as myself. The 0% thing was only as a partial amount and at a very short term - I looked into that. But im now thinking that apart from these niggles I had with the parking sensors (which after a year and a half finished with a new radio) and this boot catch failure it really is a perfectly low mileage car. Somebody would get a proper bargain there. So I think if it does play up after 3 years perhaps ex/warranty is the way forward for me.

MVS: Engine power wise I think they have spot on for maxium fuel economy -any more and them ponies will just need feeding. But then if ur towing all day long I can see ur point however there is always the discovery3.

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"MVS: Engine power wise I think they have spot on for maxium fuel economy -any more and them ponies will just need feeding. But then if ur towing all day long I can see ur point however there is always the discovery3."

More bhp/torque does not necessarily = less mpg.

It can actually mean more. Ask anyone who has tuned one, you work the motor less hard as it's a heavy car.

P.S. Wouldn't have a D3 RRS or FFRR for all the tea in China as hate the air suspension systems with a vengance

More bhp/torque does not necessarily = less mpg.

It can actually mean more. Ask anyone who has tuned one, you work the motor less hard as it's a heavy car.

P.S. Wouldn't have a D3 RRS or FFRR for all the tea in China as hate the air suspension systems with a vengance [/quote]

Yes and no. An engine pulling hard all day long will use more diesel yes however an engine pulling nicely (which in my situation I find it does) will certainly use less. 160bhp in a fl2 is a fair ol lump.
Havent said all this im surprised a big diesel engine isnt offered in the line up for the people that do want more. I suppose its all about co2 now .

Fitting a bigger engine in an FL2 means meatier transmission also, since the current ones are only just on top of the 160bhp available. All that would increase the price to a point where it encroaches into low end D4 territory so that won't happen.

Back on topic - I've had a few niggles, particularly parking sensors, and I've spent more time than I'd have liked travelling to/from the dealers, but the fact is the alternatives to an FL2 aren't very attractive. I'm considering a trade to a newer FL2 now I have no warranty.... not sure what to do just yet.

I didn't have any problems so far after 41000 km and 1,5 years.
Except park sensors when there's a lot of rain, but the other day it's ok! So no big issue!

The engine is great, I don't want another!
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AndyT wrote:

Fitting a bigger engine in an FL2 means meatier transmission also, since the current ones are only just on top of the 160bhp available. All that would increase the price to a point where it encroaches into low end D4 territory so that won't happen..

Landrover's focus is on things like the Range Rover Compact (LRX) and lighter, more efficient models. A 7 seat fatter FL2 wouldn't be in line with their CO2 reduction path and would only compete with existing models in the range. If you want a bigger engine and more seats they offer a D4.

The kind of announcements you can expect from Landrover in coming years will be related to light weight design and hybrid technologies - trust me!

AndyT wrote:

Landrover's focus is on things like the Range Rover Compact (LRX) and lighter, more efficient models. A 7 seat fatter FL2 wouldn't be in line with their CO2 reduction path and would only compete with existing models in the range. If you want a bigger engine and more seats they offer a D4.

The kind of announcements you can expect from Landrover in coming years will be related to light weight design and hybrid technologies - trust me!

I take it you have inside knowledge you are not telling us

...there's probably no mainstream car company on the planet that isn't looking at reducing CO2 figures and maximising efficiency, mainly because they have to. There are emissions targets and limits being imposed left, right and centre, and any company's market share can only drop if they can't compete. There are a few ways of achieving these goals and no golden goose, so reducing weight and using cleaner power is imperative - whichever company it is.

I'm pretty giddy about what Landrover will release in the future - the Range Rover Compact is going to fly out of show rooms (not literally, they're not that innovative!). It's such a desirable product, I just hope I can afford one when they launch.

Didn't one of the LR bigwigs say that he was looking forward to drive a Hybrid LR this year during a autocar interview

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They've probably mentioned that they're doing research to the press. Give it 5 years and every manufacturer will be offering hybrid vehicles of one type or other.
A friend of mine has a Lexus 4WD hybrid. He was recently disappointed with the snow mode. I'm sure we can expect Landrover to release a vehicle just as capable as ever but with reduced CO2 using hybrid technologies.

If I had a crystal ball yes I would still have bought my FL but I would have had a sulky 3 year old child standing by for the times I have had to deal with the FL dealer.

Communication on their level and all that

Motor's fine it's the way the problems I have had have been dealt with that would prob put me off in the future.

100% would buy another. My local stratstone dealer also give 100% sales and aftersales service.

The only issue I've had so far (fingers corssed) is the front power socket don't work.

If I had a second chance I would still go for the FL2. Though the Q5 does look quite nice.