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AndyT



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Cheap tuning box - suspicious?

Anyone had any experience of this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chip-tuning-ROVER-LA...468wt_1167
Seems very cheap, although when you look inside one I suspect (like all of them) there's only £20 of bits in it anyway.

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It looks to be a box Of tricks that just fools the cars sensors

if your going for one I would look towards a proper remap such as 10forcash's torque tune or one of the removable ones offered by the sponsors on the D3 or RRS sites Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Just read that listing and have one question....

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Sounds like another way of saying Censored performance Wink Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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AndyT



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"Organic performance" - I think you need to run the car on carrot juice grown with bullsh!t fertiliser?
It's probably a translation anomaly. They're probably referring to chemical/combustion efficiency??

Maybe I'm distracted by some of the images used in the listing Wink but at the price I'm almost tempted to try it. If it delivers as promised it would pay for itself in 3100 miles at current fuel prices.
Likelihood is of course that their claims are unachievable.
Is there no-one with any experience of this company??

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It says "-18% fuel" - you could take that two ways.....

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I thought that too when I first read it, but below that it says "+ performance, - consumption", so I think their claim is better economy and more power.
We've discussed this before in old topics and I always ask the question - if the car is capable of better performance and better economy, why the hell wouldn't the manufacturer implement it as standard? There's no way that this company could know something that Landrover doesn't, is there? If something seems too good to be true, it usually is.

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Engine designers are fools, all they need do is put a magnet on the fuel lines and economy increases 3 fold simples Thumbs Up ( so the ebay ads tell me anyway Confused )

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All the mllions companys spend on getting a clean running efficient engine and all they need to do is spend 80 quid !

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A lot of vehicles do get better fuel economy once tuned though, and the manufacturers MPG figures normally back this up ie look at fuel figures for a low bhp and high bhp version of the same engine and the high output normaly produces better fuel results when driven in the same manner as the lower BHP ones.

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AndyT wrote:

We've discussed this before in old topics and I always ask the question - if the car is capable of better performance and better economy, why the hell wouldn't the manufacturer implement it as standard?


It's usually that they prioratise emmissions.
Land Rovers were seen as right old smokers by most people.
So they target emmisions as many others do to sell more cars.

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[quote="AndyT
Maybe I'm distracted by some of the images used in the listing Wink but at the price I'm almost tempted to try it. If it delivers as promised it would pay for itself in 3100 miles at current fuel prices.
Likelihood is of course that their claims are unachievable.
Is there no-one with any experience of this company??[/quote]

Andy, Please do you can advise us lot then. Thumbs Up Whistle

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I should have done it sooner - I'm sure it was £69 when I first posted Confused

**EDIT**
....hang on.... just checked it again and it's just been reduced to £71.91 Shocked Do you think they're spying on our conversation?

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AndyT - if you want to be part of some real world fuel efficiency trials PM me Thumbs Up

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