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ransoman



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Front jacking point - excessive corrosion, repair panels?

Hi,

My 2013 FL2 has really bad rust over the jacking points on the front of the floorpan. These are so bad that they have started to collapse if used to raise the car.

Is it possible to buy repair or replacement panels for this? the closest I can find is a complete bodyshell!!

Note, this is not my photo and is linked from https://www.freel2.com/forum/post331263.html and is shown as an example of the part i need.



Thanks!

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Doubt if panels are available but a skilled welder could fabricate and make good, 2013 FL2 XS.
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How much rust is elsewhere around the car?

How cost effective is it to keep pouring money into a rust bucket!


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ransoman



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Lightwater (For some reason I can quote every other post other than yours).

The rest of the car is sound. Some surface rust on the sill on the floorpan side but I have been monitoring it since I bought it and I know it is not serious. Wheel arches are sound too. It is only a late 2013 model after all. Honestly there is just a disproportionate amount of rust on the jacking point only.

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My previous cars were 25 (I owned the car 18 years) & second one also 18 years. The second car no rust issues but the first car did have a number of issues over the years which I fixed & we don't put salt on our roads. I had new pieces welded in under the windscreen & new sill strips welded on.

These days I feel car structure is more complex so probably not worth it.

I have done first year in oxy-acetylene & arc-welding, seperate courses, probably still not worth the effort involved cutting rust out & replacing sections. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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ransoman wrote:
Lightwater (For some reason I can quote every other post other than yours).



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Rimmers sell new sill panels but there not cheap £846.01 for one side

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Re: Front jacking point - excessive corrosion, repair panels

ransoman wrote:
Hi,

My 2013 FL2 has really bad rust over the jacking points on the front of the floorpan. These are so bad that they have started to collapse if used to raise the car.



The car must have suffered some pretty serious abuse to get that bad - are you sure the rest of the shell is not far behind ?
Time to get out whilst it still has an MOT ? Jules

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Jules, I spent a long time investigating when I bought the car and give it an annual corrosion inspection too so I know where the rust is and how bad it is and I treat anything at the flaking stage. It was all surface rust 12 months ago. The jacking points were always worse though, even when I first bought it at 5 years old the sills were spotless but the jacking points would deform if you used them.

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What sort of jack are you using?
There's a small but noticeable deformation on my jacking points if I use my trolley jack under them.

However I normally use the chassis rails or center of the subframes as those are more suitable places to lift the body, as a trolley jack tends to pull sideways while lifting, which isn't what the side jacking points are designed to take.
Really the side jacking points are for lifting with a 2 post lift (rack lift for our US friend), and for emergency tyre change duties with the factory jack. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
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Front jacking points

Hi Guys, my front jacking points are shot to hell too, and have been for the 8 years I've had it (59plate) really bad rust holes in the sides of the off side one. In all that time it's never failed an mot or been flagged up as an advisory. This year it only just got through mot and listed the off side jacking point as an advisory and the tester says it wont last much longer without welding. I'm wondering could I not just grind them off, couldn't use them anyway, would that be a legal option as there's nowt left to weld to? The rest of the car's solid regarding the sills etc. Pity no one's made a repair kit.

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OK so are we classing these as the jacking points.
1

Or the actual jacking sill point.
2

I thought these were for only axle stands or when being used on a two poster lift or at a MOT test.
3

And this is the jacking point.
4

Treated and painted after or has soon as i saw it after purchasing.
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6

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Hi Arctic. The curved boxes with 2 large and 1 small hole are part of the manufacturer's lift points for when the body is being manufactured. They're not strong enough to support the weight of the fully built vehicle, unless the support pad fully covers the whole boxed area, which the factory support does, the factory support even has tapered cones that engage in the large hole, giving more supported area. It should be noted, that these supports aren't connected to anything really substantial, they are spot welded to the floor, except for the outer edge where it's welded to the inner sill. I'd definitely not be lifting or supporting on that part of the body.
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