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IanMetro Member Since: 11 Sep 2017 Location: Somerset BS21 Posts: 3156 |
Well said glassman, I think you summed up the main issues.
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2nd Aug 2022 6:47 pm |
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Boxbrownie Member Since: 17 Mar 2019 Location: Looe Posts: 2053 |
Could still be worth the change, for the first six years of ownership we saved roughly £1800 a year on fuel after changing to an EV, and we had a fairly abstemious vehicle before giving us about 38 mpg diesel 4X4, even now with the higher electric costs we are still saving around £1000 a year, it doesn’t take long to recover the initial outlay and that doesn’t include the much lower running costs regarding servicing.
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3rd Aug 2022 10:42 am |
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AT1963 Member Since: 23 Nov 2021 Location: Leicester Posts: 252 |
There you go £25k for ICE and £36k for EV.
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3rd Aug 2022 10:47 am |
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Boxbrownie Member Since: 17 Mar 2019 Location: Looe Posts: 2053 |
Errr we do Regards
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3rd Aug 2022 10:54 am |
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MartynB Member Since: 08 Aug 2011 Location: Currently Rootless ! Posts: 1781 |
Well the figures BB has posted are real life , which are worth much more than manufacturers snake oil ! I’m listening . I think 7 or 8 years 100k milez is a good time to keep a vehicle bought from new , as it’s still got a decent residual , and hasn’t got to the point where big bucks need spending ( assuming it’s been maintained properly )?
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3rd Aug 2022 8:43 pm |
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Nodge68 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Newquay Posts: 2082 |
The price disparity between ICE and EV is reducing, which is good. Unfortunately a good EV is still expensive, but have you seen how expensive a Freelander 2 was when they were on sale? If you adjusted the new Freelander price to today's prices, you'll see an equivalent (ok there aren't many direct equivalents) EV isn't that much more expensive. You also have to factor in the much lower (currently anyway) running cost and maintenance costs simply because there's less to service, and EVs are more energy efficient. There's also less to go wrong as there's less moving parts to wear, so the cost of ownership is lower than an equivalent ICE, not to mention that many EVs have 6, 7, and 8 year warranties. A way to have a Freelander sized EV without shelling out £60k, would be to convert a Freelander to an electric, using parts from a crashed EV. This will become more viable and cheap in time, as the numbers of crashed EVs will increase when more are on the roads. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car. 2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone. 2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone. Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver. 1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project. |
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4th Aug 2022 7:39 am |
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SteveC Member Since: 11 Oct 2013 Location: St Ives, Cambs Posts: 281 |
So what happens in a couple of years time when the batteries need replacing? Who wants to buy a second-hand EV with only a couple of years battery life remaining? Or will you pay the several thousand pounds to replace the batteries? Steve 2008 TD4 HSE Auto, Zermatt Silver |
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4th Aug 2022 7:43 am |
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Andy131 Member Since: 09 Dec 2009 Location: Manchester Posts: 2187 |
As much as I would like the idea of converting a ICE vehicle to BEV using scrapped EV parts I think that it would be quite difficult. An old Defender yes, a modern car with all the individual control modules talking to each other - that's going to be a big ask for all but the most software savvy.
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4th Aug 2022 8:06 am |
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jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5062 |
The problem for second hand EVs will that once outside the warranty period, the cost of battery repair/replacement will be considerably more than the value of the car.
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4th Aug 2022 8:53 am |
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AT1963 Member Since: 23 Nov 2021 Location: Leicester Posts: 252 |
There are three issues:
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4th Aug 2022 9:38 am |
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Just a driver Member Since: 29 Nov 2021 Location: Norfolk Posts: 428 |
I don’t think it’s anything that we need worry about. If the government wants people in electric cars it has to make them affordable or make it law. At the moment for joe bloggs on £10 an hour or less who currently buys old cars and sell when really old for getting to work etc is never going to able to buy new of any car , electric or otherwise. |
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4th Aug 2022 9:38 am |
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IanMetro Member Since: 11 Sep 2017 Location: Somerset BS21 Posts: 3156 |
Easy answer to potential battery problems - FIT PEDALS
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4th Aug 2022 9:40 am |
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Jimboland Member Since: 06 Dec 2015 Location: Northants Posts: 735 |
My Freelander 2 celebrates its' tenth birthday next week. It will probably last longer than me. Perhaps I should get buried in it or at least drive it to my own funeral. J PS: note to self: arrange to cancel the tax and insurance for after the funeral. |
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4th Aug 2022 10:01 am |
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Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4907 |
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4th Aug 2022 10:24 am |
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