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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame
How Many Clicks

Freel2,

Please help, I know someone will have the answer to this question. (or if enough people reply the Average value should be sufficient or is that the Median value)

I recently replaced by Parking (or Emergency) Brake shoes and I just did my first adjustment

Here is where I am at (on a slight hill)

Transmission shifted to Neutral (or clutch depressed if you have such a thing)

Click 1 - no braking
Click 2 - no braking
Click 3 - no braking
Click 4 - very slight braking
Click 5 - modest braking
Click 6 - good enough for a slightly steep hill
Click 7 - good enough for a steep hill
Click 8 - Brakes are locked (if I got to here in an emergency the wheels would likely stop spinning)
Beyond this point I feel that something might Break instead of Brake


For me this feels just about right.

Note: I don't want to adjust the brakes to the point that they will drag during normal driving.

But I do want it to be easy for My Wife and Daughter to use the brake.


To count the clicks you have to lift slowly.

If you can a reply with the maximum number of clicks that you use (assuming that you do park on a hill sometimes).

Alternatively post how many clicks are the most you dare do for fear of something Breaking.


Thanks

Paul


Last edited by p_gill on 18th Apr 2021 2:49 am. Edited 1 time in total

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seagull1



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Sumatra Black

Should be between 3 and 9 clicks according to LR .

Richard FL2 07 TD4 GS Auto
Ex 02 TD4 Auto

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Richard,

Thanks for the reply

I verified that my Daughter can reach 7 clicks and that she can release the brake from there as well.

I do think that I am slightly under tensioned but as you pointed out I am absolutely in the range.

To fine tune the adjustment I may tighten the cable slightly (now I need to figure out how to do that)

Take care

Paul

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Denboy



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 S Auto Stornoway Grey

Freelander2 hand brake adjustment between the rear of the front sears remove the small tray adjuster is there stay safe

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gasman



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4_e GS Manual Zermatt Silver

Mine starts to bite at the third click.
Very stiff hand brake. My wife has never been able to apply at fully on a hill. Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

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p_gill



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Denboy and Gasman,

That is exactly the information I need.

I am going to leave the brake as it is for now.

I don’t want to make it harder to set the brake and I am in the range as specified by Land Rover.

At a minimum more clicks allows for more momentum which should make it easier to set the brake.


Thanks

Paul

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Steve D



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You should adjust the handbrake at the rear drums to get the best leverage. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Steve

Apologies for the confusion

I only adjusted at the rear drums

And I am not certain if the final adjustment should be at the drums or the cable

I completely agree that the coarse adjustments are made at the drums

Thanks for clarifying that for future readers of this post

Paul

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MotionInc



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Mine engages fully at 5 clicks.

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p_gill



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Motion,

Thanks for the data point.

I think that I have set the gap slightly larger than factory setting.

And I think this makes it slightly easier to use the brake.

I’ll post here if I decide to make it tighter

Thanks

Paul

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seagull1



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United Kingdom 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto Sumatra Black

From LR topix manual (70.35.10),

"Apply the parking brake lever one click at a time and count the
number of clicks required to apply the brakes firmly. The brakes
should be firmly applied between 3 and 9 clicks."

So anywhere around 6 should be fine.

Richard FL2 07 TD4 GS Auto
Ex 02 TD4 Auto

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Nodge68



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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 SE Manual Rimini Red

Mine was right on 9 clicks to hold it on a hill, prior to bedding in the PB (E Brake in the US) shoes.
Once I'd bedded them in, I re-adjusted them so now they hold the vehicle solid on 4 clicks, but don't drag when the lever is fully down.

I think it's also good to gently apply the PB/EB while moving once a month, so the drum surface is cleaned of rust and accumulated dirt. Hyundai Ioniq 5 Ultimate. The family car.
2009 Rimini Red SE TD4. Gone.
2006 Tonga Green i6 HSE. Gone.
Audi A5 convertible, my daily driver.
1972 Hillman Avenger GT, the project.

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p_gill



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United States 2008 Freelander 2 i6 SE Auto Tambora Flame

Update

I adjusted the parking brake shoes so that the third click is enough for a moderate hill.

This is between 2 and 3 clicks tighter than where I was at last week.

Now with a rear wheel off the pavement four clicks is enough to hold the wheel while I tighten the lug nuts to 100 ft*lbs.


Note I haven’t adjusted the cable yet I will post here if I do.

For both of my rear brakes I get the following

3 clicks is not sufficient to torque the lug nuts (the wheel spins)
4 clicks is enough to apply the torque but a small amount of movement is evident
5 clicks and no movement is detected

I did this because I wanted the brakes to be balanced.

Thanks for all the input

Paul

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