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| MotionInc Member Since: 17 Jun 2019 Location: North America Posts: 1355   
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Tim Tams are not available in Canada....... |
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27th Mar 2020 9:37 pm |
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| Jimboland Member Since: 06 Dec 2015 Location: Northants Posts: 734  
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See here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52064450 This transplant surgeon only got a test after he was admitted to hospital with suspected Corona virus. May be if he could have had a test when he first had symptoms the outcome could have been different. J |
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28th Mar 2020 10:26 am |
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| Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4907  
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Yes Minister The Compassionate Society
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28th Mar 2020 10:34 am |
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| Boxbrownie Member Since: 17 Mar 2019 Location: Looe Posts: 2053  
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Yes, my point......if a "key" (I hate to use the term) NHS worker shows signs they get tested, if they are (sorry but true) lower down the pecking order up until now they just had to self isolate unless showing serious symptoms and admitted. But as I said 12 hours before the announcement (don't ask) across the board tests are being rolled out from this week. That must be the second NHS Doctor to succumb now, the first was at Southend Hospital.  Regards
David Lovely i6 has now gone, but not me...... Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again...... |
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28th Mar 2020 11:09 am |
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| jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5021 
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There is no treatment for Cov19 only organ support. Intubating someone and putting them on a ventilator simply buys the patient some more time to make a recovery if their immune system is still capable of doing so. If they cannot overcome the disease then they still die, only more slowly. Having a Covid19 test result at home doesnt really influence the decision whether to ventilate later in hospital , that is more about physiology and other factors including resource limitations. As ICU resources become scarce then increasingly difficult decisions will need to be made about who gets what, when and where. For example, I read that in Italy one of the criteria to ventilate the very elderly was whether they had a supporting family as it is known that those that live alone do much worse post hospital than those with a close caring family . Jules |
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28th Mar 2020 3:56 pm |
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| tooslow964 Member Since: 16 Sep 2019 Location: ceredigion Posts: 10  
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Usually moored in the middle of the river opposite the fish market if I recall, quite a large yacht - if it's still there, not been down for a few years |
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28th Mar 2020 4:14 pm |
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| Boxbrownie Member Since: 17 Mar 2019 Location: Looe Posts: 2053
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I’ll take a look in about 4-6 months time |
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28th Mar 2020 5:11 pm |
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| dorsetfreelander Member Since: 20 Jul 2013 Location: Dorset Posts: 4354 
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A friend who is a hospital consultant told me that there is an article in the Lancet that says that with Coronavirus there is a 24% mortality rate if admitted to hospital, and 97% if you need a ventilator. Which makes me think that the ventilator story is a PR issue. Although I guess 3% would disagree with me. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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28th Mar 2020 6:45 pm |
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| jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5021
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here it is https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/...4/fulltext
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28th Mar 2020 9:09 pm |
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| Boxbrownie Member Since: 17 Mar 2019 Location: Looe Posts: 2053
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Yes, my Son told me today the latest figures worked from the China data is a total mortality rate of 4%.....up from the original estimate of 1%.....but to be frank that was a lot of guesstimating and low to avoid too much panic. Regards
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28th Mar 2020 9:21 pm |
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| jules Member Since: 13 Dec 2007 Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire Posts: 5021
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Which is about twice the mortality of ventilated patients during our previous UK flu outbreaks in recent years. Jules |
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28th Mar 2020 9:51 pm |
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| MotionInc Member Since: 17 Jun 2019 Location: North America Posts: 1355
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I'd say your son's estimate is close to the truth but it's likely +25% higher in reality. Looks like in the USA, for example, Cheetolini would prefer the uncounted death's to be attributed to flu vs. COVID-19. Some folk will never even make it to the hospital given that in a 24 hour period or less, it seems that you can become critically ill. It appears that depending on the viral load you are exposed to, your immune system may not have the time to start fighting the virus until it's too late. Not enough time for enough antibodies to do the job. Never the less an Italian(?) woman who is 102 years old, survived COVID after 20 days. Don't know it she was on a vent or not, but I would have to think so? That should give anyone a smile! |
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28th Mar 2020 11:27 pm |
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| Tigger Member Since: 30 Mar 2011 Location: L15KRD Posts: 2555
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I don’t know how it will ever be possible to work out a reliable mortality rate, when we have a good idea of the number of deaths in the U.K. but only very vague guesses at the number who are (or have been) infected. A great many people suffering from the symptoms of Covid-19 in the UK are told not to even report it and have zero chance of getting tested, so will never be included in any mortality rate calculations. |
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29th Mar 2020 5:56 am |
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| Lightwater Member Since: 21 Aug 2014 Location: Sydney Northern Beaches Posts: 4907
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Sydney Northern Beaches has one of the highest Covid-19 rates in Australia, this doesn't help! Back of the envelope calcs probably 500 kids today.
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29th Mar 2020 6:32 am |
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