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Yorky Bob



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The Free Market as seen by a Farmer

Take out a few minutes to take this in:

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Chuckalicious



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I'm sure it's been debated here before, but I can't not reply.

The guy is 100% accurate, in my opinion. I find it spectacular that there isn't far more uproar about the way this is headed. The only way this can be settled is with another referendum. I don't think that's undemocratic, before anyone says it is. The will of the people was based on lies and false information. Ironically, thanks to EU rules, if you enter a contract with say a mobile phone operator and you change your mind within a time frame because it isn't what you thought, you can change your mind and leave.

This isn't like a general election where another chance will come in a few years, this is a once in a lifetime change that will destroy what is left of UK industry and it will never recover. It must be stopped at all costs.

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chicken george



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Farm subsidies are dwindling fast. Eu or no. So that's not a brexit decider

Im anti brexit . But dislike non facts from either side At work
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Yorky Bob



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I once serviced a little MF240 high up the fell at a farm near Dent. Just scraping bye in my opinion way back then with the hill subsidy.

The problem surely in UK farming is that PLC's and limited companies got involved with mega arable as they spied opportunity not community. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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Just to add that the big supermarkets are one if not the most problematic issues facing farmers today Sad

There was some professer on Country file a while back and his findings were that BrExit would have little to no effect on British farming as the natural cycle would leave some farms go under but cream would rise to the top (his words) when subsidies fall.

Seems you can get more for keeping hedges tidy rather than producing. If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Yorky Bob



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New Zealanders are paying the price more recently letting the market dictate all with a big move from sheep to beef. Massive increase in water extraction leaving rivers stagnant and water courses filled with effluent also they are growing far more feed. As most tourists want to visit NZ for the wild life and wild country its a big clash. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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You've opened a can of worms Yorky - feelings run high and things can easily become personal. Sad MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

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Yorky Bob



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Part of life's sweet tapestry, I recycle cans and have compost bins full with worms. Thud Once you remove the race card from Brexit most people with half a brain cell must see its a disaster but back to what the farmer said initially is what the post is about not my personal opinion. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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I don't believe in second referendums, the choice was made rightly or wrongly on the information supplied by both sides truth or lies, it's your problem if the rose coloured spectacles suddenly dimmed.
Look at it another way if the result of a general election went wrong after 2 years would you expect another GE because you didn't like the way the government was going along with a few vociferous others, politicians are economical with the truth especially since 1997 and are getting worse my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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When will people wake up and take control back off the delusional hedge fund managers who are funding Brexit.

Time is getting very, very, short, and the PM is not going to listen to our concerns.
She is set on driving her ideas over the cliff in (she thinks) a blaze of glory.

Help!

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The thing for me is the govt happily sells me the farm one year (after 50 years as a tenant family) then sells out the country the very next,, they might have warned me about brexit ideas before cajouling me to take a huge mortgage. If brexit causes a leap in interest rates without a hike in food prices then Im goosed

I do receive a small amount of subsidy but this is not on the poultry farm just on the arable, the loss of it will be difficult to notice due the the turnover size of poultry business compared to arable

If HSBC relocate to Europe do I still owe them money Whistle At work
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I thought Mr Miller (husband of arch remainer Gina) was the hedge fund manager. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

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tenet wrote:
I thought Mr Miller (husband of arch remainer Gina) was the hedge fund manager.


He is one of a consortium of traitors, yes, funding the other traitors, who are deliberately trying to overturn democracy. The whole lot deserve to be in the Tower, and given the way that the subjects have been betrayed by the aforementioned, I sincerely hope that they are individually given a bloody nose - literally!

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IanMetro



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chicken george wrote:
If brexit causes a leap in interest rates without a hike in food prices then Im goosed



Cheer up CG,
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Food was a luxury in those days. Now its a disposable item At work
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