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Yorky Bob

Member Since: 28 Apr 2015
Location: Yorkshire
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a failed social experiment

I thought a lot of it was around importing cheap labour, hence Trade Unions being Anti Europe. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
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27th Jan 2019 10:00 am

IanMetro

Member Since: 11 Sep 2017
Location: Somerset BS21
Posts: 3126

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SouthamFL2 wrote:
scrimple wrote:
The best way to heal the country and bring people together is to make it a country again rather than an annex of Europe, stand up and be counted, be proud to be British

You're not allowed to that's the problem.....it's not PC and is seen by the intelligentsia of the Left as racist!

Unfortunately, with these bell-ends finding faux-offence at anything remotely patriotic, we will never be able to come together and regain a sense of national pride. This dangerous obsession with 'diversity' is out of control, and not ONE politician on any side will call it out for what it really is - a failed social experiment!

Is it so wrong to step back and think about solving this delema?

This article tries to explain why we are all upset with one and other.

As Brexit debates become ever more fractious, we are trapped in a cycle of anger, disbelief and impotence. Can psychotherapy help us find a way out?
by Susie Orbach
Divorce, which is what Brexit is, takes a long time because it is serious. For divorce to work within a family, mediation is recommended. When a family breaks up with this much hostility its members rarely emerge unscathed.The escaping partner may be buoyed up by the hope of new adventures but the remaining partner is bequeathed with anxiety, insecurity and uncertainty.
On both sides of what we might term our national trauma, there is fury and hurt. It hasn’t gone away. In many ways it has heightened in the last fortnight, as the clock ticks down. There is fear and a sense of fragility, often masked by aggression and even bullying. It is easy for both parties in this traumatic break to exclude or ridicule the legitimacy of the other’s position.

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The result of the referendum was a transfer of angry feelings from many leavers, those who had been economically and socially squeezed, to remainers. There was no escaping the leavers’ fury. We have all had to see the country as broken; to give up the delusion that everyone was OK. Manifestly people weren’t. The question is how to absorb and reflect on the dispossession and rage. The Brexit vote said to remainers: “You will no longer have it your way. You are going to feel threatened as we have felt threatened. You can lose your hope as we lost ours.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jan...-of-brexit

PS It is not unpatriotic to want to discuss what is for and against Brexit, I for one want the best for my children and grandchildren, and remain true to the oath of allegiance I made, at the age of 16, to serve my country. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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27th Jan 2019 10:01 am

Mowog

Member Since: 11 Apr 2018
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 503

Great.....psychotherapy it is then..........

No, hang on..................first we must have.......

A referendum on whether we should all have psychotherapy or not

27th Jan 2019 10:07 am

SouthamFL2

Member Since: 08 Jan 2019
Location: Banbury Borders
Posts: 432

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....and then another one if the result doesn't go the way the Guardian want...

27th Jan 2019 10:23 am

Cherokee

Member Since: 12 Jun 2018
Location: Portishead
Posts: 76

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Best of five perhaps

Perhaps the the remoaners (or should we now call them the rejoiners) will be happy with that.

Cheers
Brian

27th Jan 2019 12:07 pm

IanMetro

Member Since: 11 Sep 2017
Location: Somerset BS21
Posts: 3126

Read again this quote from a leading Anti EU MEP.

Mr Healey, a former MEP candidate for the English Democrats, launched the petition in November stating: "We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60% based on a turnout less than 75%, there should be another referendum.”

However, the author of the petition has now published a statement distancing himself from it. William Oliver Healey wrote on Facebook: “This petition was created at a time (over a month ago) when it was looking unlikely that 'leave' were going to win, with the intention of making it harder for 'remain' to further shackle us to the EU. Due to the result, the petition has been hijacked by the remain campaign.” FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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27th Jan 2019 2:42 pm

Mowog

Member Since: 11 Apr 2018
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 503

That the fella with bushy eyebrows?

29th Jan 2019 6:07 pm

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