Hi all

New member here! I have recently acquired a FL2 (08 TD4SE auto), which is presently on some questionable ‘Rapid Ecosaver’ tyres all round. Based in North Yorks and frequently pass through the Dales. I will likely need decent winter performance. No space for two sets of wheels unfortunately, nor the inclination to swap.

I have used Michelin cross climates on another car previously which were excellent, but wondered if there are any cheaper alternatives which are still snow flake rated (rather than just M&S) but still have reasonable grip year round. If they had some off road performance that would be a bonus.

Many thanks
Rob

Welcome Rob try the search option as there's plenty of good advice and choices in there  If it wasn't so bad it'd be funny.

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Rob, i’m on Quatracs. Always found them a good all-rounder for Highland roads, comparison tests seem to have them in a similar position to the cross-climates, but I believe you can normally get them a bit cheaper. They have the three peak/snowflake symbol. 2005 D3 2.7 Auto
Previously:
2010 MY FL2 TD4e GS - Now gone at 199,500 miles, about 135,000 of them mine.
‘93 Defender 110 200TDi CSW
‘87 Defender 90 4 cyl Petrol
‘83 110 CSW V8 - best ever!
Range Rover 2-door V8 (not sure of year - 4-speed box and vacuum diff switch)
Series III SWB Diesel

Vredestein Quatrac 5 are about £20 a corner cheaper than the new Cross Climate + , but the new plus version CrossClimate outperforms it in most tests . Vredestein tyres sell on their general reputation and sell out pretty quickly as winter approaches. In October I got a price for Quattrqcs for the Scooby , when I went back 3 weeks later they were sold out at the distributor .

Look up a few of the ( generally German ) all season tyre tests on google . As prices vary from say £80 to £150 a corner , the performance can also vary considerably.

Ps . A good all round tyre that will do snow and mud , but isn’t rated is the Pirelli Scorpion ATR I’ve used those through 7 Pennine winters on our FL2 about £100 a corner I think . 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

2016 Subaru Outback SE 2.0 diesel SE Premium Lineartronic Sold 2024 after 8 years and 80k miles . Best Car I ever owned !

2023 Toyota Hilux invincible X 2.8 Auto .

Thanks very much for the advice, I will take a look at both those options!
Rob

Have a look at Nokian Weatherproof - Ive just fitted some. Jules

In case anyone is still looking for a all weather tire:

https://www.firestonetire.ca/tire/weathergrip

Did a search of a couple of popular tyre websites but couldnt find any Firestone Weathergrip . Maybe those tyres are not available in UK . Jules

Whatever tyres you eventually settle on, try Asda on line (Yes, ASDA) who are very competitive, and will appoint a nationwide fitter like Halfords or Formula 1.

Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season
235/55 R19 105V XL PNCS VOL

Has anyone tried these?
They seem to have an impressive Wear B, WET A and NOISE 69 test results.

Are they worth the extra?

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/Tyres/Pire...L/R-367638 FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

jules wrote:

Did a search of a couple of popular tyre websites but couldnt find any Firestone Weathergrip . Maybe those tyres are not available in UK .

I had a set of Michelin Crossclimates fitted a few weeks ago as I got a good Black Friday deal, but when I was researching all season tyres with 3PMSF winter snowflake ratings, the cheapest options I could find for my 235 55 19s were the Vredestein Quatrac Pro (Vredestein are doing a £60 winter cashback promo for 4 tyres at the moment) and the Hankook Kinergy 4S. Best prices I could find worked out at about £110 per tyre.

IanMetro wrote:

Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season
235/55 R19 105V XL PNCS VOL

Has anyone tried these?
They seem to have an impressive Wear B, WET A and NOISE 69 test results.

Are they worth the extra?

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/Tyres/Pire...L/R-367638

Having a set of Pirelli Scorpion Verde all seasons 235/55/19's tomorrow by Tyres On The Drive to replace the the same on the car now.
I checked with a few tyre dealers and they all reccommended the pirelli's
Cheers
Moe

Moe, I’ve been looking at these for my SD4 and just wondering what you think if you got them fitted? I’m between these and the Michelin Cross Climate +.