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landerthree

Member Since: 27 Dec 2017
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 116

2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

Tax

I,m sure its been asked before but how are the new vehicle excise duties going to affect me.I have a 2012 SD4 ????

13th Mar 2018 1:46 pm

Steve D

Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 4109

You’re going to pay more. We all are. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

13th Mar 2018 1:47 pm

landerthree

Member Since: 27 Dec 2017
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 116

Re: Tax

landerthree wrote:
I,m sure its been asked before but how are the new vehicle excise duties going to affect me.I have a 2012 SD4 ????

I guessed that but do we know how much and how do they arrive at the extra cost.What exactly are they going to base it on is what i need clearing up .

13th Mar 2018 2:18 pm

landerthree

Member Since: 27 Dec 2017
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 116

the way i,m reading it is that it only affects vehicles purchased after the first of april 2017

13th Mar 2018 2:34 pm

dennij

Member Since: 17 Oct 2016
Location: Up North
Posts: 261

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

Apart from the general increase at budget time, your 2012 SD4 will not be affected by the new VED rules. These apply only to vehicles registered from 2018 onwards.

13th Mar 2018 2:45 pm

RogB

Member Since: 16 Dec 2014
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 3880

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

landerthree wrote:
the way i,m reading it is that it only affects vehicles purchased after the first of april 2017

that's how I read it as well... NEW vehicles registered from 01/04/17 will be subject to what are IMO ridiculous levels of VED and will be for the first 5/6 years of their life.

Vehicles registered prior to 31/03/17 will not be affected other than by standard annual increases. I cant see them increasing these vastly as the millions of people who bought £0 or £30 VED cars will soon kick off at the government if they start getting hammered.

13th Mar 2018 3:25 pm

F5JJT

Member Since: 07 Mar 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 36

2008 Freelander 2 i6 HSE Auto Orkney Grey

Tax

Death and Taxes only certainties in life !! I see most of you are "down south" well spare a thought for us poor (literally) bar stewards north of the border because not only are we sharing the joy of increased VED but Income Tax is going up, council tax that's going up too and for what - oh I know more and deeper potholes .................deep joy

13th Mar 2018 4:59 pm

Steve D

Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
Location: Essexshire
Posts: 4109

You need your independence. Past: FL2 TD4 HSE Auto
Evoque SD4 Dynamic Lux Auto
Present: Audi A3 S Line.

13th Mar 2018 5:15 pm

dondiddy

Member Since: 16 Apr 2017
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 753

2012 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Firenze Red

Re: Tax

F5JJT wrote:
Death and Taxes only certainties in life !! I see most of you are "down south" well spare a thought for us poor (literally) bar stewards north of the border because not only are we sharing the joy of increased VED but Income Tax is going up, council tax that's going up too and for what - oh I know more and deeper potholes .................deep joy

Can you point me in the direction of the report of increased VED for Scotland. As far as I am aware VED rates are still set at Westminster. Ta much!

13th Mar 2018 5:30 pm

jules

Member Since: 13 Dec 2007
Location: The Wilds of Warwickshire
Posts: 4987

2014 Freelander 2 SD4 SE Auto Firenze Red

Its all here ...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/cons...x/page/0/1

"Road tax for older cars
If all of these changes seem daunting, they won't affect a car that has already been registered and is liable to annual road tax. None of these new tax rates are backdated, so they will only apply to new cars, so your current car will cost the same in road tax for the rest of its serviceable life, including if you put it back on the road after making a SORN (Statutory Off-Road Notification) declaration."

But its bonkers ...
"One particular beneficiary is the Ford Mustang 5.0 V8. If you bought one before 1 April 2017, then you'd be paying £515 a year in road tax, thanks to its emissions figure of 299g/km. After 1 April 2017, and thanks to the Mustang's sub-£40k list price, that drops to £140 a year." Jules

13th Mar 2018 6:32 pm

F5JJT

Member Since: 07 Mar 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 36

Re: Tax

[quote="dondiddy"]

F5JJT wrote:
Death and Taxes only certainties in life !! I see most of you are "down south" well spare a thought for us poor (literally) bar stewards north of the border because not only are we sharing the joy of increased VED but Income Tax is going up, council tax that's going up too and for what - oh I know more and deeper potholes .................deep joy

Can you point me in the direction of the report of increased VED for Scotland. As far as I am aware VED rates are still set at Westminster. Ta much![/quot

Dondiddy - that's why I wrote "sharing" but we also have the joy of increased Income Tax set by the chimps sitting in Holyrood ..................I know I can move and I intend too asap ..............

14th Mar 2018 8:08 am

landerthree

Member Since: 27 Dec 2017
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 116

jules wrote:
Its all here ...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/cons...x/page/0/1

"Road tax for older cars
If all of these changes seem daunting, they won't affect a car that has already been registered and is liable to annual road tax. None of these new tax rates are backdated, so they will only apply to new cars, so your current car will cost the same in road tax for the rest of its serviceable life, including if you put it back on the road after making a SORN (Statutory Off-Road Notification) declaration."

But its bonkers ...
"One particular beneficiary is the Ford Mustang 5.0 V8. If you bought one before 1 April 2017, then you'd be paying £515 a year in road tax, thanks to its emissions figure of 299g/km. After 1 April 2017, and thanks to the Mustang's sub-£40k list price, that drops to £140 a year."

plus £2000 a year for 6 years

14th Mar 2018 8:52 am

Yorky Bob

Member Since: 28 Apr 2015
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 4561

2013 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Firenze Red

VED Farce

I have just worked out that I could spec a car just over 40K and not pay the uplifted VED as it does not included the on the road costs of First registration fee and cost of first licence and possibly also the delivery charges.

Big problem is say car was £39,999 then if you place a factory order the VED is applied at delivery date and if the factory added just £2 you are stuffed. Complete nonsense as it should surely be the cost at the date you signed for it. FL2 MY10 TD4 GS traded in at 2 years
FL2 MY13 TD4 GS Current

13th Feb 2019 3:30 pm

Past master

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: Isle of Ely
Posts: 2710

That's right - the tax is based on the list price including any factory fitted extras. It does not include any dealer-fitted extras, but nor does it take into account any discount you may agree.
The question of price rises after the order is put in is an interesting one. Anyone know the answer|? Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
300TDi Disco (bought new - terrible car) sent back after 18 months
Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

13th Feb 2019 4:17 pm

SouthamFL2

Member Since: 08 Jan 2019
Location: Banbury Borders
Posts: 432

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Baltic Blue

It's based on MRP (list), not the invoice price. Hence why they launched a DS Landmark, which is basically an HSE, badged HSE however no front foglights and sub-£40k (£39990)

If you negotiate it to say £37k as an example, you will still bear the relevant VED on the £39990, rather than the HSE MRP at £41k

All smoke and mirrors really.

13th Feb 2019 4:35 pm

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