Just a question really.

I tow a 24ft caravan with my FL2, the car has the factory steel spare which is speed restricted. Should I need to use it when towing I was wondering what the LR stance is on this

I have googled it and researched it but as yet not found a definitive answer if your towing something, only hearsay and opinions.

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I won’t give you my opinion then, but here’s what the AA say:

https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safet...are-wheels

So what does your handbook say?

Thanks,

Seen that from the AA , Nothing about it in my Hand book that I have seen.

If I was stuck I would fit it and get the standard tyre sorted ASAP. I'm just interested in finding out what is the official LR take on it.

it could come in handy in a discussion with a copper at the road side if I ever found myself in such a situation.


Good choice of car colour BTW  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

i have been in this situation

the LRCS or LR breakdown person (can't remember which i rang) said the speed it lower due to the wheel been steel and nuts are for alloy wheels, but it does not effect the load

So i towed back from scotland on mine, till i could get a new tyre sorted after the bank holiday and everywhere been closed Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Thanks for that, that's first time I have heard this take on it and makes a valid point about the 2 different wheel mounting types  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
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1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

Last edited by Milothedog on 13th Oct 2017 10:19 am. Edited 1 time in total

If you are at all worried for a few £ you should be able to pick up a full size alloy wheel from eBay or from someone selling one here, the design does not have to match as long as it is same size.

Thanks on the colour

I mentioned the handbook as the contents of the Handbook normally reflects the manufacturer's official line as there are instances where manufacturer's have blamed damage on incorrect use, but have been held liable where the user has followed advice given in the original handbook (or, more usually, lack of advice in the handbook!).

CJOver wrote:

If you are at all worried for a few £ you should be able to pick up a full size alloy wheel from eBay or from someone selling one here, the design does not have to match as long as it is same size.

Not worried about it just I would like to know the official LR take on it. I have been looking out for a full size as you suggest but it would have to be a matching one (just my OCD ) on here there normally only sets of 4, I have seen a couple on Flea Bay, one at a very good price but the seller will only do collect in person and is over 200 miles away.

I'll keep looking though  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

Providing the rear axle loading is not exceeded it matters not whether you are towing or just fully loaded the loading on the wheel and tyre are the same. With regard to the nuts, if they are not suitable for steel wheels the LR should have supplied new nuts with the wheel, I suspect that is a fallacy as the only time there is a problem between steel and alloy wheels and their fixings is when bolts are used not nuts, bolts for alloy wheels are usually of a higher tensile strength due to higher torque settings.
Those who tow tin mobile homes may remember a certain caravan manufacturer who had a problem with wheels falling off their heavier vans  my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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Last edited by Dartman the one on 13th Oct 2017 2:43 pm. Edited 1 time in total

There must be a reason for putting the speed restriction in place

Maybe the taper of the steel wheel has a narrower contact area / different angle taper to the alloy

Regards wheels falling off, in my past working life in the HGV and Bus industry. In nearly every case it was due to not being torqued correctly (either over tightened causing the rim to spread or split or not tight enough) or the mating face not being cleaned of dirt / corrosion. When it did happen and Vosa got involved the S**T hit the fan big time. 2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

as previously said, it the wheel nuts been for alloys and not steels, speed restrictions just lessen the risk Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

I picked up a spare not long ago which the seller wanted collecting but I asked if I arrange a courier would that be acceptable and they agreed -

https://www.paisleyfreight.com/alloy-wheel-courier

Will pick up an 18" and deliver for less than £20

Thanks for that, It may come in very useful  2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.

The speed restriction is due to the tyre speed rating not the wheel, though it would be unwise to travel at high speed if any wheel was of smaller width and diameter than the fitted wheels, though the overall diameter of the wheel and tyre is that of the fitted wheels on the vehicle. Same as you wouldn't drive at high speed with three 19" wheels and one 16 or 17 inch wheel. my PC is slightly to the right of Genghis
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The tyre speed rating is H 130 mph (this is the original unused spare )

Only difference is, it's 17" steel rim, not 18" like the alloy's The spare tyres aspect ratio is different to the road wheels and I suspect that the RR will be very close because of this difference. 2007 TD4 XS The work horse that earns its up keep
2013 SD4 HSE The posh one for towing the caravan
1973 Triumph Stag I bought in 2009 and restored.