Far too much common sense in the previous two posts. Common sense has no place in modern politics, which is why we're where we are!

After the somewhat shocking revelations about VW's blatant deception of US emission measurement & control regime, how long will it be before we discover there may by a few other major vehicle manufacturers taking similar steps to con us all and maximise profits rather than improve their engine technology?

I really hope that LR is not one of them!

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Folk complain all the time about them not being able to get anywhere near the mpg the makers claim so thats another con in a way, tests being done with altered vehicles and not what you can buy.
They fiddle the results by removing mirrors, radios, taping up gaps and taking out rear seats, etc, all wrong, whats the point of doing tests then giving wrong results? Its done by most manufacturers apparently with just the odd one getting it right, Honda was one of the most accurate it was said. ??

I wouldn't be surprised at all if other manufacturers were doing the same. There's plenty of diesel engined cars that I have tested (MOT) and when it comes to the smoke test you cannot even get a reading on the machine when you carry out the test. You have to make a note that the smoke output was not enough to generate a reading. You could be revving it up to the limit (3,000rpm) and the machine is telling you "Please insert probe into exhaust"!

Just a tought BUT ... it seems to me that all the heads of the major german car manufacturers VW BMW MERCEDES ECT ECT are going to leave their jobs before the end of SEPTEMBER ....will they have hansome "golden handshake salaries ???

what happens on the first of OCTOBER OCKTOBERFEST makes you thing aaaay ..!!!  Wales
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(And we have the water to wash it off, and more on the way..! )
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12 xs Gone
HSE with Leather seats and 4 years warrenty.. staying for now !

I was in a LR dealership yesterday and casually mentioned the VW scandal and was given chapter and verse on how it did not affect them and that there was an official press release saying so. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

Just heard that Switzerland has temporarily banned the sale of some VW diesels

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34365794

Any any idea on what this does for cars that have been chipped? That must be illegal too. 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

I've just read that too, what next? ... Preventing VW diesel cars crossing the border ...

So what if someone sells a VW diesel car privately? Do they have to get the buyer to sign a disclaimer so that they don't get sued? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
5 x FL2 4 manual + 1 auto
Now Discovery Sport P250 MHEV SE

it's start already, just had a phone call. Was you miss sold a TDI  MY13 HSE LUX Aintree Green
MY57 SE Stornoway Grey. Gone
Nissan X Trail
Discovery V8 LPG
Series II Land Rover

Audi have just owned up to the same 'cheat'

Audi is a VW company, so no surprise here. Checkout SEAT and Skoda too. Ex AA Series III LWB Safari - Gone
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Freelander 1 Estate - leased, given back at end of lease
200TDi Disco (bought from a mate with 100,000 on the clock) - Gone
Disco 2 TD5 - sold and exported to France
FR2 TD4 GS - Gone
FR2 SD4 HSE - Now changed for a DS
New model ex-demo Evoque S 180 in white
Unable to order a new DS, so gave up. Now have a Volvo S90 Recharge.

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it's start already, just had a phone call. Was you miss sold a TDI

Clarkson talking sense again,, controversial obviously, but he's part right

http://www.theweek.co.uk/jeremy-clarkson/6...volkswagen At work
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