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Who is using 2 Stroke Oil
Yes - and my FL is quieter
36%
 36%  [54]
Yes - But I cannot tell if my FL is quieter
10%
 10%  [15]
Yes - No, It is not quieter
2%
 2%  [3]
No - I am not using 2 Stroke oil
51%
 51%  [75]
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bjartin



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Paul wrote:
, it is no more but a waste of time to even read them.


I'm glad I did not use the time to read it, but thank you for your inspection. Thumbs Up LR Freelander2 2,2 Td4 HSE manuel Stornaway Grey (Metallic) & Ebony Black Leather & Sun/Moon-roof & Bi-Xenon & Roof Rails & Tow bar & Body side rubbing strips & Cold climate pack & Privacy glass & NavTeq . Production Date: 11/5-2007 in Halewood.

Sorry, but I have changed to Defender 90 ", and I love my" tractor ".
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you're welcome. Wink

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bjartin wrote:

API TC, ISO EGD, JASO FC, ROTAX 253 -


ISO EGD, JASO FC is explained by YF, but what about ROTAX 253 and API TC . LR Freelander2 2,2 Td4 HSE manuel Stornaway Grey (Metallic) & Ebony Black Leather & Sun/Moon-roof & Bi-Xenon & Roof Rails & Tow bar & Body side rubbing strips & Cold climate pack & Privacy glass & NavTeq . Production Date: 11/5-2007 in Halewood.

Sorry, but I have changed to Defender 90 ", and I love my" tractor ".
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Rotax 253 is a single cilinder snowmobile engine but it's also the name of the oil classification.
API TC: American Petroleum Institute - standard for high performance engines.

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Many Thanks, Paul.
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Sorry, but I have changed to Defender 90 ", and I love my" tractor ".
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bjartin wrote:
Today I found in my local STATOIL a bottle of Two Stroke Oil.
2-TWay. Low Smoke. (Bottle with 200 ml).

The text on the bottle is very positive:
#Part synthetic oil for use in land-based 2-stroke engines, with or without separate lubrication. Keeps the engine clean and minimizes exhaust smoke#

In 2008 I spent 1,650 l diesel (22.000km). Normally I fill up 50 liters each time, consequently, I have visited the petrol station 33 times. If I had used 1 bottle (200 ml à 25 DKK) each time, it would be 33 x 25 = 825 DKK is approximately 100 € / 100 £
It increases my expenses by 5.5% (825dkk / 15.000dkk)

Yes, I know I can get much cheaper oil by buying larger quantities and / or other product.
In the calculation, I used 200 ml / 50 l, while recommended 300ml of full tank. LR Freelander2 2,2 Td4 HSE manuel Stornaway Grey (Metallic) & Ebony Black Leather & Sun/Moon-roof & Bi-Xenon & Roof Rails & Tow bar & Body side rubbing strips & Cold climate pack & Privacy glass & NavTeq . Production Date: 11/5-2007 in Halewood.

Sorry, but I have changed to Defender 90 ", and I love my" tractor ".
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Paul wrote:

All 4T oils contain additives to keep the engine clean. Those do not harm the lubrification properties either.


There is a difference, oil in 4T engine does not enter the fuel induction system. Here we are talking about putting the 2T oil into the fuel system of a 4T engine. In a 2T engine the oil/fuel mixture does not come into contact with the extreme high pressures found on a modern diesel engines fuel system.

If other people wish to use the 2T oil that's fine, I'm just giving my reason not using it. Stornoway Grey GS ... What a fine motor Smile ... but not any more ... Big Cry ... psst look at my gallery!
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quote: In a 2T engine the oil/fuel mixture does not come into contact with the extreme high pressures found on a modern diesel engines fuel system.

Modern diesels have indeed much increased injection pressures. In combination with the low sulfur diesel oil that doesn't lubricate as good as the "old" diesel used to do, I would assume that adding some additional lubricant could only be advisable. As I mentioned before, no make of car nor any fuel company would ever admit this officially as it would question the quality of their products and that's exactly why technological and scientific test results are hardly available.

Anyway, I respect your decision. No hard feelings, avtur.

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As I have said enough to this issue, I will not comment any more posts, and I will be quiet now.

YF

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I understand your decision YF. Anyway, thanks again for your most interesting posts about this subject. Bow down

btw: what happened with your nice avatar ?

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yamaha-fan wrote:
As I have said enough to this issue, I will not comment any more posts, and I will be quiet now.

YF


...you have my vote for the most interesting and beneficial post on this forum, so please don't be quiet !

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Hey Jimmy,
What 2-stroke oil do you use, and what is the price ( dkk ) of a bottle ( 1 L )?
Which gas station? LR Freelander2 2,2 Td4 HSE manuel Stornaway Grey (Metallic) & Ebony Black Leather & Sun/Moon-roof & Bi-Xenon & Roof Rails & Tow bar & Body side rubbing strips & Cold climate pack & Privacy glass & NavTeq . Production Date: 11/5-2007 in Halewood.

Sorry, but I have changed to Defender 90 ", and I love my" tractor ".
http://www.youtube.com/bjartin

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hej Bjartin,

I'll post the details tomorrow - it's a bit nippy now to go to my garage in my jimjams.... Rolling with laughter

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bjartin wrote:
Hey Jimmy,
What 2-stroke oil do you use, and what is the price ( dkk ) of a bottle ( 1 L )?
Which gas station?


Hej bjartin,

I use Shell Advance VSX 2T oil (from Shell garages of course Thumbs Up ).

It exceeds JASO FC, API TC, ISO_L_EGC.

If you go on the Shell.dk website - then you can see all the oils they offer, their properties & quality ranking. And this was the best 2T oil.

I'm sorry but I can't remember the price - but all Shell garages will be the same.

Maybe I can save Dkr 10, if I buy a different 2T oil from another garage, or in a 10ltr bottle, not 1tlr....but it's not worth the effort in the big scheme of things. I prefer to use the "best", from a readily available source (Shell garages).

Hope this helps !

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jimmy wrote:

I use Shell Advance VSX 2T oil
Hope this helps !

Tusen tak,
I will try it in a short ( ? ) period. Thumbs Up LR Freelander2 2,2 Td4 HSE manuel Stornaway Grey (Metallic) & Ebony Black Leather & Sun/Moon-roof & Bi-Xenon & Roof Rails & Tow bar & Body side rubbing strips & Cold climate pack & Privacy glass & NavTeq . Production Date: 11/5-2007 in Halewood.

Sorry, but I have changed to Defender 90 ", and I love my" tractor ".
http://www.youtube.com/bjartin

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