Whats best
A Blue fin remap or a rolling road remap for 30 quid more

If you do a quick search (search tab above) you will find endless amounts of info on the subject

If your just after a simple re-map and not doing any more, then a bluefin is the perfect way to go without stressing anything out.

If your looking at turbo, intercooler, injector swaps etc, then a rolling road re-map where they actually map the car live on the rollers is the best bet.

The Bluefin by Superchips is not a generic map like some would make you believe. They actually re-write your specific file, read directly from your own car.

I ran bluefin on my old car for 6 1/2 years without issue.  Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

Thanks Mav
Just the sort of info i needed i wasn't sure which would be best with so little difference in price

Not doing anything else for performance, would just like a little something for towing, economy and every day driving, without stressing anything

I fancy the Bluefin they get good reviews across all makes of car, and the ability to unload and load the maps is a bonus.

Will probably wish i had done it 64000 miles ago when i got it new.

I used to remap all my past cars , BMW , Mercedes , Jaguar but I never bothered with the Freelander.

To be honest I now think that it was all a waste of money, I never saw any significant improvement in economy and the change to ' driveability ' smoothness , increased torque etc. etc was never really noticed in everyday driving.

I used both add on boxes and complete remaps , which were possibly better

IMO I would save your money and buy some good wine , the effect will be just as good

Can't speak for BMW, Mercedes or Jaguar, but having remapped a Focus ST 225 in a previous life I can say that the difference was EPIC.

Night and day difference.

Equally, I remapped a Focus C-Max 2.0TDCi, and that was SUPERB!!

Remaps, done correctly, on the right "kind" of car do make a significant difference......

If the difference was ' epic' then it probably was done at the expense of long term reliability.

all the remaps that I had done were by market leaders !!!!! or at least those best reviewed

If you only keep cars for a little time it is not a problem BUT longer term and second/third owners who really knows.

I have heard and listened to all the hype by I stand by my opinion that in the real world of every day driving the difference is just not relevant.

An increase of 2/3% of improved fuel economy is worth ??( you work it out ) all in the long run.

improved 0 -60 time ,,,how often do you do that??

increased top speed ...in todays speed camera world, rarely

so what do you get other than a £££ hole in your wallet.

as I said been there and done it , so I was wrong as well

At the expense of reliability? Possibly - although since both remaps were done by official Ford supplier, and didn't affect warranty, it was of little concern to me. In 5 years of driving both cars mapped, I also didn't have a single failure of any description. I also know where both cars moved on to - after a further 2-3 years, they're still going strong.

The fuel economy increase was more like 10-15% - especially on the diesel. With the cost of the remap being so cheap, and the price of diesel being so expensive, did it pay for itself? Probably not - but it certainly took a significant bite out of it.

0-60 time was improved a bit - and I agree, it's not really relevant these days. Where the massive improvement came was in torque, and in the the 30-70mph time. Made driving far more pleasurable, and simply effortless on the motorway.

Both cars, when remapped, were transformed. Fact.

There are certainly some huge opportunities to waste time, effort and money with remapping a car - and certainly some cars respond better than others.

However, I stand by what I say - my experience of mapping cars has been entirely positive, and I too am actively considering mapping the Freelander.

Reeventu wrote:

I used to remap all my past cars , BMW , Mercedes , Jaguar but I never bothered with the Freelander.

To be honest I now think that it was all a waste of money, I never saw any significant improvement in economy and the change to ' driveability ' smoothness , increased torque etc. etc was never really noticed in everyday driving.

I used both add on boxes and complete remaps , which were possibly better

IMO I would save your money and buy some good wine , the effect will be just as good

choccymonster wrote:

At the expense of reliability? Possibly - although since both remaps were done by official Ford supplier, and didn't affect warranty, it was of little concern to me. In 5 years of driving both cars mapped, I also didn't have a single failure of any description. I also know where both cars moved on to - after a further 2-3 years, they're still going strong.

The fuel economy increase was more like 10-15% - especially on the diesel. With the cost of the remap being so cheap, and the price of diesel being so expensive, did it pay for itself? Probably not - but it certainly took a significant bite out of it.

0-60 time was improved a bit - and I agree, it's not really relevant these days. Where the massive improvement came was in torque, and in the the 30-70mph time. Made driving far more pleasurable, and simply effortless on the motorway.

Both cars, when remapped, were transformed. Fact.

There are certainly some huge opportunities to waste time, effort and money with remapping a car - and certainly some cars respond better than others.

However, I stand by what I say - my experience of mapping cars has been entirely positive, and I too am actively considering mapping the Freelander.

Reeventu wrote:

If the difference was ' epic' then it probably was done at the expense of long term reliability.

all the remaps that I had done were by market leaders !!!!! or at least those best reviewed

If you only keep cars for a little time it is not a problem BUT longer term and second/third owners who really knows.

I have heard and listened to all the hype by I stand by my opinion that in the real world of every day driving the difference is just not relevant.

An increase of 2/3% of improved fuel economy is worth ??( you work it out ) all in the long run.

improved 0 -60 time ,,,how often do you do that??

increased top speed ...in todays speed camera world, rarely

so what do you get other than a £££ hole in your wallet.

as I said been there and done it , so I was wrong as well

What twaddle you talk........please read the post properly


I repeat my comments :

' I have heard and listened to all the hype by I stand by my opinion that in the real world of every day driving the difference is just not relevant.'


as an aside my remaps were all done on turbo diesel engines ( E320cdi Mercs and 330D BMWs, the Jaguar was a V8 petrol). They were carried out very professionally by http://www.dmsautomotive.com/. I have no complaint about what they did or their service.

Which bit was twaddle?

Not reading my post !

and

the remaps were not crap

0-60 quoted as an example of useless hype

if you hammer a car ?? where can you 'hammer' a car all the time ( Except on a circuit )

Was the Zafira 'hammered ' 100% of the time, I doubt it

All cars have to be looked after, probably those that are lightly used more so than regularly used cars

We all no cars are built to withstand more than that is specified, that is why we get warranties . They also cater for various fuels , operating conditions etc.

I do not wish to be anything but polite BUT my comments relate to EVERYDAY DRIVING and the value gained by remapping by a competent specialist

Hmmm....I thought I did read your post, and equally I thought I did offer my thoughts to each specific point you raised.

My mistake.

I am confused, if I'm honest, that you maintain you were happy and content with the products and service offered by your remap specialist, and the fact that "the remaps were not crap", yet you also say they weren't worth it as they provided no real benefit?

Clearly you have had a poor experience remapping your various cars, and I am sure you are speaking from your own personal point of view. Which is fine.

Equally, I repeat, my experience of remapping vehicles has been entirely positive. There was a transformation in the way the car drives - both (obviously) when I took the ST to the track, and equally during everyday driving for the C-Max diesel.

Done correctly, to the correct car, I absolutely (but respectfully) believe you are wrong. Remapping does indeed make a difference to the way a car drives - both everyday, and when (rarely) it is hustled along......