I had the old BMW engined FL1 remapped, twas much better.
It was still under warranty, so like a good boy I took the remap off every time before it went in for service/repair.

The dealership came to me one afternoon and asked would I stop taking the remap off, they weren't bothered that the car was remapped, but every time I switched it wiped the memory, so there was no history in the diagnostics which would make their job harder.

Haven't bothered to remap the FL2, 160bhp is enough for my lead right foot, but if I could get more mpg ........  Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Reeventu wrote:

My point is simple a remap on a Freelander is not worth the money in the real world of driving ( original point )

Reeventu wrote:

Secondly the only way to ensure a car is running to its best performance ( torque curve/Fuelling / etc ) is to test what you are doing . under load on a rolling road.

Reeventu wrote:

As an aside ( and I stand to be corrected here ) I do not think that you can access the diagnostics fully on a Freelander nor where you could plug in a Lamda sensor to monitor ( and adjust ) fuel ratios.

Perhaps someone could clarify that point.

No idea!!

I'm sure someone will toddle along soon enough to help out!!

Mav71 (and others) thank you for your replies to my post.

Has anyone had a Bluefin remap on a SD4? If so was it worthwhile and what were the most noticeable improvements?

choccymonster wrote:

Reeventu wrote:

My point is simple a remap on a Freelander is not worth the money in the real world of driving ( original point )

I didn't think you'd had your Freelander remapped? Perhaps I misread your original post.

If you haven't, how do you know?

Either way - looks like several people on here disagree with you.

Equally, whilst I have no direct experience of the Freelander remap, I can quite willingly believe it will have a difference based on the significant improvements (based on real world driving) remapping made to my previous two vehicles.

Reeventu wrote:

Secondly the only way to ensure a car is running to its best performance ( torque curve/Fuelling / etc ) is to test what you are doing . under load on a rolling road.

Agreed.

However, we're talking about "real world driving" here and what is noticeable and perceivable to the average Joe driver. Were the torque curves and fuelling perfect on my previous remapped cars? Almost certainly not. Was there a dramatic improvement in everyday driveability, performance and fuel economy? Yes. Did I ever have a mechanical fault on either vehicle, or did their subsequent owners? No.

Reeventu wrote:

As an aside ( and I stand to be corrected here ) I do not think that you can access the diagnostics fully on a Freelander nor where you could plug in a Lamda sensor to monitor ( and adjust ) fuel ratios.

Perhaps someone could clarify that point.

No idea!!

I'm sure someone will toddle along soon enough to help out!!

Thanks for the info re engine differences. I'm finding it difficult to keep up with everything in this thread though I have read it.

OP, this is another worthy reminder to contact LR and Superchips before undertaking anything like this. Only then can you know for yourself who covers what, in the unlikely event that a remap causes a fault.

Found this, hope it helps.

APPROVED USED VEHICLES WARRANTY HANDBOOK: Page 16, section 14(i). Exclusions.

"This warranty does not cover any of the following: (i) Any repairs, replacements or alterations not authorised by the Administrator."

This means you'll have to tell them before doing it and get their approval before you can. This is something I would hope Superchips would be willing to help with.

While installed, I struggle to find (under average joe 99.9% road driving conditions) any differences between how my remapped TD4 and the standard SD4 loan cars handle. I'm not saying there aren't mechanical differences, just that I couldn't tell anyone which version of engine I was driving if I didn't already know. That's a sure fire way to negate confirmation bias and i've tested it in real life.

If it's that much of a big deal, buy an SD4. Whereabouts unknown stop going to follow stream until reach civilisation stop message ends

Without dragging this on.

Re-mapping the FL2 makes a massive difference in every day driving. Re-maps are not all about balls out performance, the Freelander TD4 with a re-map makes a very effortless car to drive.

Over taking is much easier without hammering through the gears etc. I am not bothered about top speeds, or 0-60 times etc, but the Freelander with a map is a very nice car to drive.

I don't believe tuners run Lamda on a diesel. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

kimosabe wrote:

Thanks for the info re engine differences. I'm finding it difficult to keep up with everything in this thread though I have read it.

OP, this is another worthy reminder to contact LR and Superchips before undertaking anything like this. Only then can you know for yourself who covers what, in the unlikely event that a remap causes a fault.

Found this, hope it helps.

APPROVED USED VEHICLES WARRANTY HANDBOOK: Page 16, section 14(i). Exclusions.

"This warranty does not cover any of the following: (i) Any repairs, replacements or alterations not authorised by the Administrator."

This means you'll have to tell them before doing it and get their approval before you can. This is something I would hope Superchips would be willing to help with.

While installed, I struggle to find (under average joe 99.9% road driving conditions) any differences between how my remapped TD4 and the standard SD4 loan cars handle. I'm not saying there aren't mechanical differences, just that I couldn't tell anyone which version of engine I was driving if I didn't already know. That's a sure fire way to negate confirmation bias and i've tested it in real life.

If it's that much of a big deal, buy an SD4.

I have a recently installed Bluefin on my 2013 SD4. I had the device from previous TD4. Superchips downloaded a new map for the SD4 for £215.
SD4 in standard form is already a lively car, however found the gearbox not as smooth as TD4. Bluefin has improved this by giving the gearbox more torque to play with. Towing - which I do a lot of is much better. Not noticed any difference in fuel consumption if you resist the temptation to use the extra power!

Happy with the result so far, but as has already been said, you soon get used to the extra and it becomes the 'norm' especially when the cost of fuel and the gridlocked roads reduce driving enjoyment.  1998 Feelander XDI Hardback - Gone
2002 Freelander TD4 GS Hardback - Gone
2004 Freelander TD4 HSE Stationwaggon - Gone
2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS manual - Gone
2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto - Gone
2013 SD4 GS arrived April 2013

Thanks for the information. Is yours an automatic?

A garage turned down some software updates on a newish D4 resently because they found his remap so it does happen with Warrenty issues






Well I say remap, what they found was a "power magic" which is the battery saver for the blackvue camera, plugged into his fuse box

They can be Plebs, don't tell them anything, or leave anything on the car, no matter why it goes in the dealers, they'll use it as an excuse if they can

Budweiser - Yes mine's an auto - SD4 only available as an auto.

I always remove the Bluefin map before taking it in for any work. Not had a problem yet in 3 years and 75K miles. 1998 Feelander XDI Hardback - Gone
2002 Freelander TD4 GS Hardback - Gone
2004 Freelander TD4 HSE Stationwaggon - Gone
2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS manual - Gone
2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto - Gone
2013 SD4 GS arrived April 2013

Thanks for all the input chaps.

I have no doubt it would become the norm but if it makes it better in ways probably worth it.

How does it feel is it instant shove through all the gears or just higher gears, or more subtle, do you have to rev it or be normal to feel the difference.

And can the fault code reader be used on the freely?

Torque increases over standard from about 1500rpm - see maps on Superchips website. Extra torque is most noticeable gears 3 - 6. It allows auto to change up at a lower rpm therefore provides smoother more relaxed progress. Most noticeable going up Cornish hills or towing. In manual also allowed earlier gear change and hold on to higher gear at lower speed.

Not sure if its my imagination but the uptake of drive feels better more responsive with it. This is a bug bear of mine with the Auto. The quicker you need to get going the slower it seems to do it. To my mind the MY13 feels worse than the MY10 in this respect especially if you are coming off the brake and you have some lock on the steering.

Bluefin worked as a fault code reader in my2010 but don't know about my 2013 as I haven't tried it. If I remember correctly Superchips had to enable the fault reading facility on the Bluefin.

Just makes it a better drive! 1998 Feelander XDI Hardback - Gone
2002 Freelander TD4 GS Hardback - Gone
2004 Freelander TD4 HSE Stationwaggon - Gone
2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS manual - Gone
2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto - Gone
2013 SD4 GS arrived April 2013

Hi,

Is it safe to use this on a manual 2013 XS TD4 or will it overload the clutch, transmission etc. Car is used for towing a caravan so extra power would be advantageous, however, looking at the Superchip graphs this does not seem to be available until about 2500 rev/min, above the general rev range when towing except up hills etc. Would there be any advantage?

Thanks

I 1st installed the Bluefin on my07 TD4 manual. I did suffer the same clutch problems that others without Bluefin or other tuning have had. If I remember this was some clutch slip at around 2000rpm. Although a heavy right foot / more power would make it worse, it would still slip when Bluefin wasn't installed - clutch replaced under warranty.

I stand to be corrected but don't LR supply the Evoque as an SD4 in a manual form? Being slightly lighter than FL2 may help but LR must be happy with strength / reliability of drivetrain to offer it with the 190PS engine.

Bluefin on manual TD4 did make a difference you could feel the difference in torque from 2000rpm upwards. This was on the earlier 160ps engine pre DPF, not sure if this dulls performance at lower revs? You will notice a difference in towing with a Bluefin installed. Whether it is worth the cost to you is purely down to personal preference - The Freelander is already a very good tow car in standard tune - especially autos - light blue touch paper and stand well back But having towed with both I know which I would rather tow with. 1998 Feelander XDI Hardback - Gone
2002 Freelander TD4 GS Hardback - Gone
2004 Freelander TD4 HSE Stationwaggon - Gone
2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS manual - Gone
2010 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Auto - Gone
2013 SD4 GS arrived April 2013