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freedieselauto



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Engine Preheater

I am considering buying an engine preheater and came across this on the bay of fleas and wondered if anybody has bought and fitted one. Is it any good? It is a lot cheaper than the Kenlowe. It is 2Kw rather than the 2.7Kw Kenlowe. Any advice welcome.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...SA:GB:1123 - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #118784 1st Nov 2011 10:39 am
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alex_pescaru



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An engine cooling fluid preheater is always a good thing, especially on minus degrees temperatures.
Seems a simple construction, I don't think that there's something that could go wrong if properly installed.
I hope you saw that must be plugged into a 240V electrical outlet... This isn't a problem into a garage, but for an outdoor parking place...
And that adverted 0.33 liter (one drink dose) per second flow rate seems a little unrealistic...

Post #118791 1st Nov 2011 11:26 am
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freedieselauto



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alex_pescaru wrote:
An engine cooling fluid preheater is always a good thing, especially on minus degrees temperatures.
Seems a simple construction, I don't think that there's something that could go wrong if properly installed.
I hope you saw that must be plugged into a 240V electrical outlet... This isn't a problem into a garage, but for an outdoor parking place...
And that adverted 0.33 liter (one drink dose) per second flow rate seems a little unrealistic...


Thanks Alex,

I park close to my garage so I intend to fit a 240v snap connector socket (for when I forget and just drive off) under the wheel arch or bumper to a short caravan type mains supply cable connected to a mains outlet with a timer. Well that's the outline plan. I intend to post how it goes when I get round to fitting it. Yes, .33 litres/second seems high!

Anybody fitted any sort of pre-heater? If so, I would appreciate any advice on where is best place to fit the snap away 240v connector. I may put it next to my tow electrics as the nearest to the outlet and will do the least damage if I foget and drive away forward. Howevr, it means routing the cable all the way to the rear and more risk of 240v cable chafing/shorting. Ho hum, another project I wish I had tackled in the summer. - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #118795 1st Nov 2011 11:52 am
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freedieselauto wrote:
I intend to post how it goes when I get round to fitting it.


I for one will be interested in how you get on! Thumbs Up Brian

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Post #118796 1st Nov 2011 12:32 pm
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freedieselauto



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I bought one of these and will install it when I get some time and post how it went.
A question: The instructions are to install it in series with the heater i.e. connect by adding a pipe from the heater inlet hose via a T joint (supplied) to the heater unit and then to to the heater outlet pipe via another T joint. However it also states:
"Please note that this unit can be installed inline with the vehicles cabin heater, however the water control valve MUST remain open when the pre heater is in operation. Please double check the valve will remain open when the vehicle is turned off as some valves are spring loaded to shut when the power is turned off."

Does anybody know whether the the water control valve remains open when the power is off as this would be a much simpler installation. - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #119257 5th Nov 2011 11:08 am
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alex_pescaru



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There is no water control valve in FL2...
Don't confuse it with the thermostat and its bypass valve.
So install it without fear in series with the cabin heater.
In fact this is the installation layout in the case of FFBH (Fuel Fired Booster Heater). In series with the internal heater matrix.

Post #119311 5th Nov 2011 7:04 pm
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surely it says 1200 l/hr Flow Rate much slower than an average garden tap, so against no back pressure its believable, but once installed it must surely be slower, of little relevance really as long as it circulates water faster than the element heats it At work
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Post #119347 5th Nov 2011 11:17 pm
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The heater on my pond is can cope with a maximum of 1000 l/ph and that's through inch and a half pressure pipe. Somthat one must create a fair bit of pressure at 1200 l/ph ?

Must remember to turn them down 2 x 3 kw heaters, the wife will hit the roof when the electric bill comes in Confused

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freedieselauto



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alex_pescaru wrote:
There is no water control valve in FL2...
Don't confuse it with the thermostat and its bypass valve.
So install it without fear in series with the cabin heater.
In fact this is the installation layout in the case of FFBH (Fuel Fired Booster Heater). In series with the internal heater matrix.


Alex,

Thanks again. I appreciate your helpful advice. Your knowledge of the Freelander 2 is encyclopaedic ! - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #119392 6th Nov 2011 11:16 am
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FreeLander88



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Any pics on the installation of the preheater freedieselauto?
I am also interested in doing it.

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freedieselauto



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I bought the pre-heater but never got round to fitting it. I have now retired so I don't need to warm up the car in the morning to go to work.

Anybody want to buy a mains electric pre-heater? - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #214991 27th Jan 2014 9:51 am
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FreeLander88



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Anyone who knows how to install a preheater. Wondering which hose you should use,the upper or lower hose on the radiator and which way the water flow so the preheater is oriented correctly.

Post #215137 28th Jan 2014 8:07 pm
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freedieselauto



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Have a look at this kindly sent to me by Alex Pescaru when I was planning to add the heater. It may help you.

 - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #215153 28th Jan 2014 10:19 pm
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FreeLander88



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It helps
The only wonder I have now is..... Which hose should I cut and install the preheater?
The inlet hose or the outlet hose from the heater matrix??

Post #215185 29th Jan 2014 10:54 am
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freedieselauto



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See the link on my original post to the heater I bought on ebay. It gives instructions on how to connect the heater.

Good luck. - 2007(57) XS Auto, Rimini Red, Alpaca Leather.
- GCS Hawke - Sports, BRG, Vulcan 2.1 inj'. My toy - built it myself in 2001.

Post #215186 29th Jan 2014 11:07 am
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