What are Land Rover playing at "wheel drive system which operates in front-wheel drive only during steady-state driving at speeds above 22 mph (35 km/h)" The new disco now comes with an optional low box what are these clowns playing at!!! How long till the Freelander comes with active driveline? Is it just me or is anyone else thinking the same thing? So what if it saves you fuel who buys a Land Rover and has fuel economy in mind? The main thing Land Rover are well known for globally is the permanent all wheel drive system. I would happily pay a bit more road tax and use more fuel. Even in dry weather all wheel drives makes a massive difference! In Scotland the ED4 Evoque and ED4 Freelander 2 have failed! Will the Active Driveline System replace the ED4? I cant be the only one who cringes about Land Rover and part time all wheel drive surely..........  MY14 Kahn Converted Dynamic - Fuji White Ebony/Pimento Interior
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Even though you are happy to pay a bit more Land Rover ain't, soon manufacturers will be heavily penalised for every "dirty" car they sell.

I'm a die hard Landy fan, but things must change, LR is a business and have to keep up with their rivals. It's not such a big deal series Land Rovers came with selectable 4WD and we drive a LR with no low range, when the Freelander first appeared it caused a bit of a stir among the die hard fans.

Plus it's only available on the Si4 Evoque at the moment, though I do think its a good system it can change in 300 milliseconds when it detects slip, our Freelanders don't drive all the time with a 50/50 split they are front wheel drive biased. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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It's about fuel economy, sales and emissions. Less weight = less fuel = lower emissions = lower Tax Band = more sales. The new RRS the low Box is optional along with Disco, I find it useful, but many of the buyers the only off road they see is on the pavement.
It has been said that the reason the Freelander comes without a spare wheel is to get it down to a lower Tax Band, haven't a clue if it is true. But the comment you made about LR drivers who buys a land Rover for fuel economy, you would be surprised the amount who come on here expecting 50 to the gallon.
Iirc the Freelander is front wheel drive, with the rears basically on standby. p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

I believe there is always a small amount of drive to the rear but most is to the fronts. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

Freelander is predominantly front wheel drive. When you move off from stationary it is about 90% front drive, at a constant speed in a straight line it is about 70% front drive. Only when the car detects the need for equal torque at the rear does it switch to a 50/50 split. It takes about 15 millionths of a second for it to switch the drive ratio.

50 mpg that's hatchback figures
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Active driveline is really to get the emissions down for the Si4 at the moment. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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When you move off from stationary it is about 90% front drive, at a constant speed in a straight line it is about 70% front drive.

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Vehicles fitted with Terrain Response also add further benefits by varying the level of pre-charge to deliver optimum traction over a range of different terrain surfaces. The level of pre-charge is varied depending on the particular terrain response mode, for example:

Terrain response in 'Special Programs Off' mode as common with vehicles without terrain response, the coupling is programmed to transmit 500 Nm 369 lb ft of torque on Generation 3 couplings and 1500 Nm (1106 lb ft) of torque on Generation 4 couplings to the rear axle when the vehicle moves from rest in a straight line. This strategy minimizes traction loss from a standing-start regardless of the terrain. When the vehicle accelerates the pressure in the coupling is decreased to improve fuel economy.

The ability to sense the steering angle allows the coupling to be programmed to provide no torque transfer through the coupling. This prevents the coupling locking when the vehicle is maneuvring at low speeds and acute steering angles.

In 'Grass / Gravel / Snow' mode the coupling is programmed to maintain its pre-charge state until much higher speeds are obtained. The same applies even if the vehicle is traveling at low speeds and acute steering angles, as traction takes precedence over coupling lock-up on low-friction surfaces.

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Is it just me or is anyone else thinking the same thing? ... I cant be the only one who cringes about Land Rover and part time all wheel drive surely..........

The new ZF 9 speed gearbox going into the Evoque has a 1st gear that is to all intents a low range gear, it also has what are effectively overdrive gears at the top end as well resulting in about a 10% improvement in fuel economy and 11% reduction in CO2 levels.
I'm pretty sure the replacement for the Freelander will be offered with the 9 speed box, as will other vehicles in the range.

That's pretty much what we were told at Halewood that the 9 speed would be fitted, first gear sounds like it will be a manual selection as it is very low, in normal use the box will ignore it and set off in 2/3 gear.

Yeah, but that's an auto! What about a proper manual with low range? Or at least a lower first and reverse.