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m00baz00

Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Fife
Posts: 13

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Zermatt Silver

DPF issues

Greetings - I am currently an X-trail (sorry if that is seen as swearing) owner but am considering Part Xing for a Freelander. Whilst the Xtrail is a good car when not in limp mode there are many issues with the DPF clogging and the car then going into limp mode thru non-regeneration. Whilst Nissan recognise it as a fault they blame the driving style because "I am not going fst enough for long enough !!!!" - debunks their urban myth advert somewhat !

I would appreciate any advice on known problems with the Freelander in this respect. I do not regularly travel mega distances and most of my driving is short hops. Thanks for any help

Paul

13th Aug 2010 1:14 pm

Mr Moo

Member Since: 31 Dec 2009
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 41

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Stornoway Grey

Current FL2 does not have a DPF (in the UK at least), so no issue for you.

Make sure you avoid the revised version which will be in dealers shortly, as this does have a DPF to meet EU5 regs.

13th Aug 2010 1:45 pm

joe1978

Member Since: 27 Jun 2007
Location: North East England
Posts: 201

2011 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Fuji White

I the UK, the DPF is now standard on all FL2 models. However, if you're in the used market then anything UK spec MY10 or before will be DPF-free!!

joe MY11 Fuji white Td4 150 GS straight up no mixer.

13th Aug 2010 1:46 pm

m00baz00

Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Fife
Posts: 13

Thanks Mr Moo - in my ignorance I thought all new cars had to have them fitted from last year ?

Paul

13th Aug 2010 1:47 pm

m00baz00

Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Fife
Posts: 13

Thanks for this Joe - do you know when they started fitting them and how can I tell if one is fitted or not as I understand it was an option from about 2007 ?

Thanks again

Paul

13th Aug 2010 1:49 pm

joe1978

Member Since: 27 Jun 2007
Location: North East England
Posts: 201

AFAIK, the DPF was option/standard in EU-land only up until now, I doubt anyone would choose to have one fitted!
If on doubt get the dealer to sign saying it does't have one and if it does kick his/her ass!!

Joe

Edit: I've just had a look at the MY10 spec list on the web and it doesn't mention the DPF anywhere MY11 Fuji white Td4 150 GS straight up no mixer.

13th Aug 2010 1:51 pm

rchrdleigh

Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
Location: Somewhere in the East of England
Posts: 1601

2011 Freelander 2 TD4 XS Manual Baltic Blue

My understanding is DPF will be standard on all MY11 Freelander 2

13th Aug 2010 2:01 pm

Wing

Member Since: 26 May 2010
Location: Manchestor
Posts: 309

2013 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Lux Auto Santorini Black

Ordered my HSE TD4e back in April without any mention of DPF filters and options. Picked her up late June and page 95 of the manual mentions the DPF filter as if it's standard fit, no mention of 'optional extra' or 'if fitted'.

13th Aug 2010 3:55 pm

Big Dave

Member Since: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1055

2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Stornoway Grey

With the amount of smoke ours 09 HSE kicks out when flooring it after pottering about it definately doesn't have one!

I managed to almost obscure an entire speed camera van on tues Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

13th Aug 2010 5:35 pm

Dunk

Member Since: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Bristol
Posts: 235

2007 Freelander 2 TD4 GS Manual Nazca Sand

Big Dave wrote:
With the amount of smoke ours 09 HSE kicks out when flooring it after pottering about it definately doesn't have one!

I managed to almost obscure an entire speed camera van on tues

Well done Dave, maybe try and add some type of flame thrower device and try again. The camera van will be trashed and they'll be none the wiser it was you

13th Aug 2010 5:58 pm

Big Dave

Member Since: 22 Nov 2009
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1055

Quote:
maybe try and add some type of flame thrower device and try again

I reckon I could hide a flamethrower behind one of the fake exhaust finishers, anyone got any going spare??

Mine: 2012 Golf GTI Edition 35
Family's: 2009 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Auto, Stornoway

Yorkshire - God's County

13th Aug 2010 6:10 pm

alex_pescaru

Member Since: 12 Mar 2009
Location: RO
Posts: 4642

Re: DPF issues

m00baz00 wrote:
I would appreciate any advice on known problems with the Freelander in this respect. I do not regularly travel mega distances and most of my driving is short hops. Thanks for any help

If this is your daily routine, then you may have problems with FL2 DPF too.
In order to burn the particles inside DPF and to clean it, the exhaust must be taken to a certain higher temperature. This is done by cruising at high RPM (not necessarly speed) for a specific amount of time. During short hops this cant be done. So the dealer could be right about "You're not going fast enough for long enough !!!!"
Of course there is a DPF cleaning process which is started automatically by the car as soon as it thinks that DPF needs cleaning. But this process also takes time and also could be ended prematurelly by those short hops.
Read the material below for a full explanation, especially the last part, from page 167, about DPF regeneration.
https://www.freel2.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11383/FL2_DPF.pdf

13th Aug 2010 6:15 pm

kezman50

Member Since: 06 Oct 2009
Location: Melton Mowbray
Posts: 81

So what's going to happen in say 4-5 yrs time? Where no matter if you buy new or used it will almost certainly have DPF .....and your a person who's daily routine IS the short driving hops? I would imagine there are loads of people that fall into that category (I for one am fortunate enough to work about 3 miles from where I live) Are we going to have examples of "Mum doing the 2 mile round trip to Tesco and making it last 10 just to avoid getting error messages and limp home modes?" Rather makes a nonsense of the Eco' mentality being bashed into us at the moment!!

13th Aug 2010 7:08 pm

Dave

Member Since: 04 Jul 2007
Location: Somewhere Near You
Posts: 2666

2012 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE Auto Indus Silver

You could always sit on your driveway and rev the nuts of the car ______________________
2011 Full Fat RR 4.4 TDV8
2012 FL2 SD4 Auto HSE
2013 Kawasaki Versys 650

13th Aug 2010 7:23 pm

alex_pescaru

Member Since: 12 Mar 2009
Location: RO
Posts: 4642

kezman50 wrote:
So what's going to happen in say 4-5 yrs time? Where no matter if you buy new or used it will almost certainly have DPF .....and your a person who's daily routine IS the short driving hops? I would imagine there are loads of people that fall into that category

You didn't pay attention to the PDF file. Read on the last page, last paragraphs. They reffer to people like you...

13th Aug 2010 7:57 pm

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