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j77



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LRE in my own Freelander

Looked into doing this at Dunkeld, it's advertised on their website, so sent an email only to get a reply saying that it is not offered to Freelander owners Evil or Very Mad but I'm more than welcome to do it in their Freelander. No thanks

I've spent 」30k on a 4WD that I can't even take to a dedicated LR centre, to "see what your Land Rover can do" as LR put it, how can I do that using an auto when mine is a manual, they behave differently off road.

Not chuffed LR, us Freelander owners have the Land Rover oval on the grill as well as the bigger cars. 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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I looked into this earlier in the year. Following advice from members on here, I decided against it. It's far better to destroy one of their vehicles than risk your own.....do it in one of theirs so that you know what it can do, but don't knacker yours in the learning process. Manuals and Autos are much the same when the going gets tough, as it's not really the done thing to be off-roading in 'D' anyway. CommandShift/1st or 2nd/MudRuts/HDC on for the most part. Foraging near Gaydon....
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j77



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I've been up a few times, so not a complete novice but by no means an expert. I hear what you say, I just thought it would be more informative and relative in my own. Thumbs Up

I suppose it will save me buying a new clutch Laughing 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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pab



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There's no evidence that I'm aware of that (sensible) off-road use damages clutches! And the FL2 is easily up to (sensible) off-road use. That said I'd be tempted to use LR's car too! Except that ...

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Manuals and Autos are much the same when the going gets tough


I don't really subscribe to that view. It's nothing to do with the gearbox itself, of course - a gearbox is a gearbox! The issue is the different characteristics of a clutch vs a torque converter. There are some circumstances in which a torque converter can be better (e.g. when you've selected the wrong gear for an obstacle), but there are also circumstances in which the direct connection between engine and wheels offered by a clutch actually make things easier. Uneven ground, for example. The manual will just keep trundling along with little driver input up to the point at which the engine stalls (which, of course, properly driven won't happen). The indirect connection of a torque converter can actually make the auto driver have to work much harder, as the car tends to stop when it hits an obstacle. The driver then has to pile on the power to get over the obstacle, then lift off again as he clears it. Often just in time for the rear wheels to hit the same obstacle and the car to stop again. Repeat ad infinitum.

There are many videos on YouTube which demonstrate this - you will find examples of Defenders trundling easily over obstacles which have the Discos stopping and starting with lots of engine revving! (To be fair to the Disco one can also see Defenders cross-axled on obstacles the Discos trundle easily over, but that's nothing to do with the gearboxes so not relevant here.)

On balance I'd still go for a manual for off-road use - unless, perhaps, I was expecting relatively extreme conditions in which case the auto can make things a little more fool-proof. But they do, I think, sometimes require different techniques and an auto won't necessarily show the best way to approach an obstacle in a manual.

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I did the Eastnor Castle Land Rover Experience with my Freelander 2 last summer! It was an interesting experience. At one point we went over a ridge and down a long hill! As I went over the ridge the back wheels of the Freelander were both up in the air, so I was informed by the Defender diver behind me. We then went down the long hill with traction control really showing what it could do, so many lights flashing and lots of noise from the brakes! The only damage was to the heat shield under neath that became a bit torn!
We also went through water that was rather deep! The only bits I was told to avoid were the very rutted sections!

Would I do it in mine again. No, I will stick to gentle green lanes! Got far too worried about damaging my baby! 1998 300TDi Auto Disco, never to be forgotten.
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pab



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That last paragraph sums it up, really. Few of us want to spend tens of thousands on a car and then risk damaging it, so few of us (me included) will ever take their cars anywhere near their limits. (Although I have had passengers worried that I'm going to break something Smile ) Using the LRE car does mean that if you do break something, however unlikely that may be, you won't have to pay for it! But there is satisfaction to be had from doing something in your own car - it's a sort of shared experience!

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I've seen people use their own Freelander 2 on the LRE site at Rockingham Castle on the regular Driver Training Days. Great thing about them is there is an LRE Instructor on hand to provide advice on how to tackle each obstacle and if you don't fancy a particular obstacle you can miss it out.

Details of when Driver Training Days take place can be found at http://lroac.com/Calendar.html

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j77



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I think if I've to do it in an LRE car I will probably do it in something other than the Freelander, I've done it before in the SD4 which is why I wanted to do it in mine to see how they differ.

Probably do it in the Range Rover, see what the TR 2 with auto setting is like, plus it's my ultimate car but just a tad out of budget Laughing so perfect opportunity to try it.

Cheers for all comments 21MY Defender 90 S 3.0 D200

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