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Badger1970 Member Since: 21 Sep 2012 Location: Southam, Warwickshire Posts: 1372 |
I looked into this earlier in the year. Following advice from members on here, I decided against it. It's far better to destroy one of their vehicles than risk your own.....do it in one of theirs so that you know what it can do, but don't knacker yours in the learning process. Manuals and Autos are much the same when the going gets tough, as it's not really the done thing to be off-roading in 'D' anyway. CommandShift/1st or 2nd/MudRuts/HDC on for the most part. Foraging near Gaydon....
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14th Oct 2013 1:19 pm |
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j77 Member Since: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Fife Posts: 2909 |
I've been up a few times, so not a complete novice but by no means an expert. I hear what you say, I just thought it would be more informative and relative in my own.
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14th Oct 2013 1:34 pm |
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pab Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Now in Mid-Wales Posts: 2007 |
There's no evidence that I'm aware of that (sensible) off-road use damages clutches! And the FL2 is easily up to (sensible) off-road use. That said I'd be tempted to use LR's car too! Except that ...
I don't really subscribe to that view. It's nothing to do with the gearbox itself, of course - a gearbox is a gearbox! The issue is the different characteristics of a clutch vs a torque converter. There are some circumstances in which a torque converter can be better (e.g. when you've selected the wrong gear for an obstacle), but there are also circumstances in which the direct connection between engine and wheels offered by a clutch actually make things easier. Uneven ground, for example. The manual will just keep trundling along with little driver input up to the point at which the engine stalls (which, of course, properly driven won't happen). The indirect connection of a torque converter can actually make the auto driver have to work much harder, as the car tends to stop when it hits an obstacle. The driver then has to pile on the power to get over the obstacle, then lift off again as he clears it. Often just in time for the rear wheels to hit the same obstacle and the car to stop again. Repeat ad infinitum. There are many videos on YouTube which demonstrate this - you will find examples of Defenders trundling easily over obstacles which have the Discos stopping and starting with lots of engine revving! (To be fair to the Disco one can also see Defenders cross-axled on obstacles the Discos trundle easily over, but that's nothing to do with the gearboxes so not relevant here.) On balance I'd still go for a manual for off-road use - unless, perhaps, I was expecting relatively extreme conditions in which case the auto can make things a little more fool-proof. But they do, I think, sometimes require different techniques and an auto won't necessarily show the best way to approach an obstacle in a manual. |
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14th Oct 2013 2:25 pm |
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PR Member Since: 31 Oct 2010 Location: South Glos Posts: 222 |
I did the Eastnor Castle Land Rover Experience with my Freelander 2 last summer! It was an interesting experience. At one point we went over a ridge and down a long hill! As I went over the ridge the back wheels of the Freelander were both up in the air, so I was informed by the Defender diver behind me. We then went down the long hill with traction control really showing what it could do, so many lights flashing and lots of noise from the brakes! The only damage was to the heat shield under neath that became a bit torn!
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14th Oct 2013 4:00 pm |
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pab Member Since: 28 Aug 2012 Location: Now in Mid-Wales Posts: 2007 |
That last paragraph sums it up, really. Few of us want to spend tens of thousands on a car and then risk damaging it, so few of us (me included) will ever take their cars anywhere near their limits. (Although I have had passengers worried that I'm going to break something ) Using the LRE car does mean that if you do break something, however unlikely that may be, you won't have to pay for it! But there is satisfaction to be had from doing something in your own car - it's a sort of shared experience! |
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14th Oct 2013 4:51 pm |
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rchrdleigh Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere in the East of England Posts: 1601 |
I've seen people use their own Freelander 2 on the LRE site at Rockingham Castle on the regular Driver Training Days. Great thing about them is there is an LRE Instructor on hand to provide advice on how to tackle each obstacle and if you don't fancy a particular obstacle you can miss it out.
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14th Oct 2013 4:53 pm |
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j77 Member Since: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Fife Posts: 2909 |
I think if I've to do it in an LRE car I will probably do it in something other than the Freelander, I've done it before in the SD4 which is why I wanted to do it in mine to see how they differ.
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14th Oct 2013 5:04 pm |
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