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Stevie5tapes



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New tyre symbols

Just been browsing the net for some tyres and I see that from yesterday all tyres have to show 3 symbols now, fuel efficiency, wet braking and noise. A couple of the cheaper tyres I saw were supposed to be more fuel efficient. Do you think its all rubbish or do you think people will now buy tyres with regards to these little symbols?

Post #159626 2nd Nov 2012 8:34 pm
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npinks



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Makes no difference

If joe blogs tyres is AAA rated and cheaper than a branded I'd still buy branded Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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Expensive, bureaucratic EU nonsense.

How many people understand the noise levels in decibels, it's a logarithmic scale so there is a big difference between 72dB and 73dB, also it relates to external road noise, not internal.

Many top premium tyres have been pulled as they achieved low scores and appeared worse than a budget brand.

Joe public will now be buying tyres with an apparently good rating that are of inferior build quality and cheap only to find out they don't last or the handling will be iffy, the test criteria is flawed IMHO.

Should also add, the tyres are not tested, the figures are manufacturer derived and the system relies on them being honest Rolling Eyes

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i remember reading somewhere (think it was LRO mag) that some tread patterns will no longer be available due to road noise, so manufactures have to design new tyres to comply with the rules BUT remoulds do not have to comply till next year 1995 P38 now dead
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It's farcical, the Goodyear Wranglers which people on here swear buy get rubbish ratings E for rolling resistance and E for wet weather stopping.

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The main problem is it's all self regulated so Dunlop rate their own as Goodyear do their own and so on and so forth.

Some budget tyre manufactures have seen this a way to sell more tyres..............soon we could see a Okekokey 2000GT XL getting a 0db, AA. Rolling Eyes

Go for the tyre that suites your needs as I think it's all up in the air.

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There's no reason to believe that quite a few people will make their buying decision based upon the information on these labels.

Unfortunately, as Andy says, with manufacturer's self certifying the labels, it's open to huge abuse. In addition, we know very little about the test procedures, although I understand that the manufacturer may choose their own testing temperature, over a 25 degree centigrade band, for grip tests!

Without more information who carries out the tests and how they are carried out (what does "wet grip" mean, for instance; is that braking and/or accelerating and/or cornering in heavy rain and/or standing water and/or slightly damp surface?) then these results are virtually meaningless.

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AJS4X4 wrote:
The main problem is it's all self regulated




Shocked Shocked

this will do nothing but add to the cost of tyres, if the cost goes up then so will the V.A.T so i only see one winner the GOVERNMENT 1995 P38 now dead
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AJS4X4 wrote:
Okekokey 2000GT XL getting a 0db, AA. Rolling Eyes



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Stevie5tapes



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Does anyone know of any good posts on here regarding choosing tyres? I will need 4 next year, I only do 5000 miles a year and no of roading. Mostly around town driving. I know you get what you pay for but to me (not an expert!) some of the budget tyres according to the symbols seem good value?

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taztastic wrote:
Expensive, bureaucratic EU nonsense.

How many people understand the noise levels in decibels, it's a logarithmic scale so there is a big difference between 72dB and 73dB, also it relates to external road noise, not internal.



110dB was Concorde on take off I heard. so your tyres are just a bit quieter on that basis.

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taztastic wrote:
Expensive, bureaucratic EU nonsense.

How many people understand the noise levels in decibels, it's a logarithmic scale so there is a big difference between 72dB and 73dB, also it relates to external road noise, not internal.



I was at a tyre place today talking about the new symbols..he wasn't aware that 3dB difference related to a doubling in noise

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