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jon_a5



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United Kingdom 2014 Freelander 2 SD4 Dynamic Auto Santorini Black

Worth factoring in things like snow and heavy rain as the ATs will perform much better than the UHPs

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russben



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I found the UHPs superb in really heavy rain on the motorway. No aquaplaning or 'tugging' of the wheel and visibility was down to about 50 yards at that point due to the torrential rain. Although they are listed as M+S tyres, I don't suppose they will be fantastic on mud or grass due to the directional tread pattern. Having said that, I didn't have any problems in last years light snow / ice or on a slippery & wet field. Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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Post #151838 21st Aug 2012 6:17 pm
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UKDEN



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I replaced my Pirelli Scorpion Zeros (on my D3) at 25000 miles Shocked with Pirelli Scorpion ATRs.
At 45000 miles the ATRs were less than half worn.

I estimate they were going to do about 40-50000 miles on the set. Thumbs Up

I traded D3 (at 45000 miles) in for current SD4, so I will never know for certain.

They seemed to be better in extreme wet and snow than the original Zeros as well as wearing at about half the rate.

I would use them again. Very Happy Now: 2012 FL2 SD4 XS Orkney Grey
Previously: 2007 D3 TDV6 XS Tonga Green
Before that: 2003 FL1 TD4 "Kalahari" Black

Post #151845 21st Aug 2012 7:29 pm
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AJS4X4



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The General UHP would do your job I think, lots of happy users and better than some other standard tyres.

General AT is a great all round that ticks most boxes. Andy.
www.ajstyres.co.uk www.ajs4x4.co.uk
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Post #152780 29th Aug 2012 10:06 am
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Boolia



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I need 4 new tyres and was looking at the AT's and was told on my post that the 255/60/R18's could invalidate my warranty.. Thoughts? Need them desperately so really need advice! Thumbs Up Confused

Post #156571 5th Oct 2012 7:15 pm
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russben



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Boolia wrote:
I need 4 new tyres and was looking at the AT's and was told on my post that the 255/60/R18's could invalidate my warranty.. Thoughts? Need them desperately so really need advice! Thumbs Up Confused


Can't see why replacement tyres would invalidate a warranty. Make sure the tyre load rating is correct (103 at least, I think) & that you fit 235/60 x 18s. If you are trying to fit 255s that may be the issue. Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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Post #156786 8th Oct 2012 11:49 am
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Boolia



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russben wrote:
Boolia wrote:
I need 4 new tyres and was looking at the AT's and was told on my post that the 255/60/R18's could invalidate my warranty.. Thoughts? Need them desperately so really need advice! Thumbs Up Confused


Can't see why replacement tyres would invalidate a warranty. Make sure the tyre load rating is correct (103 at least, I think) & that you fit 235/60 x 18s. If you are trying to fit 255s that may be the issue.


The tyres I had my eye on were Grabber AT's 255/60R18's. I can't find a Grabber AT at 235/60R18. They do a UHP at this spec..

Just wanted advice on what people thought were the best. Need something good in the snow! Thumbs Up

Post #156787 8th Oct 2012 12:00 pm
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AJS4X4



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Big step up from 235/60x18 to 255/60x18, we have not done this but I think some may have.

With luck in the first quarter of 2013 we should see the General AT available in 235/60x18.

If anyone has gone 255/60x18 how have you got on ? would have thought 255/55x18 would be better IMHO. Andy.
www.ajstyres.co.uk www.ajs4x4.co.uk
J8 M25 SURREY
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Post #156789 8th Oct 2012 12:18 pm
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Andy131



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Boolia wrote:
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Just wanted advice on what people thought were the best. Need something good in the snow! Thumbs Up

Why not look at the genuine winter tyres, designed for snow, better in cooler weather.

Just replaced the original 18" Goodyear Wranglers with Goodyear UltraGrip winter tyres (ebay strikes again), better at cornering than the nearly bald originals, certainly clear the water better - but here's the rub, fuel economy has dropped from around 31mpg to a best of 28mpg. This means they are worse than the Goodyear MT/R for fuel economy!

The originals lasted approximately 55K - it's hard to tell as I have done 77k on the originals and the MT/Rs, the MT/Rs have approx 7mm tread left. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Post #156790 8th Oct 2012 12:20 pm
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Boolia



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Andy131 wrote:
Boolia wrote:
........

Just wanted advice on what people thought were the best. Need something good in the snow! Thumbs Up

Why not look at the genuine winter tyres, designed for snow, better in cooler weather.

Just replaced the original 18" Goodyear Wranglers with Goodyear UltraGrip winter tyres (ebay strikes again), better at cornering than the nearly bald originals, certainly clear the water better - but here's the rub, fuel economy has dropped from around 31mpg to a best of 28mpg. This means they are worse than the Goodyear MT/R for fuel economy!

The originals lasted approximately 55K - it's hard to tell as I have done 77k on the originals and the MT/Rs, the MT/Rs have approx 7mm tread left.


Thanks for the reply! My fuel economy is already worse than rubbish due to the short hops I do! I may go for the Grabber UHP's... What do you think!

Post #156791 8th Oct 2012 12:24 pm
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russben



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Why not ring AJS 4x4 & have a chat? They may be able to suggest an alternative to the Generals. Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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Post #156792 8th Oct 2012 12:25 pm
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AJS4X4



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Take a look at Hankook RA23 in 235/60x18. Andy.
www.ajstyres.co.uk www.ajs4x4.co.uk
J8 M25 SURREY
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Post #156793 8th Oct 2012 12:29 pm
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russben



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I'm on Grabber UHPs & have no problems. Brilliant in the rain, grippy in the dry. 12+k miles on mine & 6mm left. No problems in last years light snow & ice, but may not be fantastic in deep snow. I had no trouble on a muddy & slippy field either. Poke it, Poke it, make it do it again!!

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Post #156794 8th Oct 2012 12:43 pm
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Boolia



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Thanks everyone, as usual you are all fab! It's such a lot of money so want to get it right.

Post #156795 8th Oct 2012 12:48 pm
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