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1STFREELANDER



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Temporary spare wheel(or not)

Can anyone help with the following question. I thought I had a full size spare wheel but when Igot it out and looked at it has a sticker on the rim saying temporary use only, not to exceed 50mph. It is a steel rim fitted with a Hankook dynapro AT 225/65 17 103H tyre. As far as I can see on the internet this is a normal tyre,
so is it the rim that denotes its temporary use, or was the rim fitted with a temporary tyre which has been replaced.

Post #118498 30th Oct 2011 7:01 am
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Have you had this car from new? It should be a 235/65 R17 108V (where 17" wheels are fitted) on an alloy wheel when specified as an accessory from new, so this one's a bit of an oddball....

UPDATE: I've just seen your other post here and see that you've picked up the car used from a main dealer with 18" standard road wheels. I would take a trip back to the dealer and ask for the correct sized (18") spare wheel to be provided!

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we bought the car from a main dealer when it was 5 months old, that was 20 months ago. It was advertised as having a full size spare wheel. We swopped it into our new one on friday as I didn't want a can of foam, I have to admit this is the first time I have looked at it. I didn't realise it wasn't the same width as fitted to the other tyres (235/65 17).

Post #118502 30th Oct 2011 7:29 am
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I see.

Personally, I would NEVER use a spare wheel that was likely to be a different diameter to the permanent wheel that it replaced - too much of an opportunity to destroy a differential! Shocked

I'd go looking for the real thing to replace it with:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FREELANDER-2-18-...4cfb462a6e

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unused-Freelande...336d8506c8

Post #118503 30th Oct 2011 7:41 am
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Re: Temporary spare wheel(or not)

1STFREELANDER wrote:
Can anyone help with the following question. I thought I had a full size spare wheel but when Igot it out and looked at it has a sticker on the rim saying temporary use only, not to exceed 50mph. It is a steel rim fitted with a Hankook dynapro AT 225/65 17 103H tyre. As far as I can see on the internet this is a normal tyre,
so is it the rim that denotes its temporary use, or was the rim fitted with a temporary tyre which has been replaced.


I think I've read on this forum previously is that because it is a steel wheel the fixings that are normally used with your alloys are not fully compatible - as a result there is a speed restriction on the use of the steel wheel. It is nothing to do with the bit of rubber but actually your nuts/studs whichever it is Very Happy

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1STFREELANDER



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Looks like its 50mph for me or a new spare.

Post #118506 30th Oct 2011 8:09 am
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Personally, I wouldn't drive a different diameter wheel at any speed, but it's your new car and your choice....

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My 08 SE I understand came new with the steel wheel and 225/65/17 Hankook tyre. (still unused). I guess LR must consider the tyre size difference too small to matter for a temporary fit. Nevertheless, when I bought it, I found a spare set of SE wheels on ebay. I use one of those as the spare. The steel wheel is sitting in the shed until p/ex time.... 10MY (Sept 09) TD4 HSE Auto in Stornoway Grey (Now Gone)

08 FL2 TD4 SE Manual in Rimini Red (Now Gone)

Post #118509 30th Oct 2011 8:23 am
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My spare wheel is a 225/65 r17. This is 10mm narrower than the other four Sad Wheel and tyre looks brand new

On the plus side, this ensures that i don't use the spare as a replacement tyre and leave a 'near bald' one in the boot (although i don't think this would be LR's intention).


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The tyre my be narrower but will be the same rolling circumferance, speed restriction is because steel wheel + alloy nuts.

Richard FL2 07 TD4 GS Auto
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Post #118529 30th Oct 2011 1:20 pm
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Not true, the '65' stands for the Aspect Ratio (tyre wall height) and is 65% of the width. Therefore with a narrower tyre the tyre wall height will be less (with the same figure), and the rolling circumference will be less.

The rolling circumference of the 235/65/17 will be 2316mm and the 225/65/17 will be 2275mm causing the two half shafts to run at different speeds.

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True but 41 mm on the circ is nothing, you can get this with worn tyres, but that said its not good and mybe thats another reason LR say for emergancy use only, and a limit of 50 MPH!

Richard

PS. Ive a 07 GS with a 235 on steel spare, and that has been discused at length on here. FL2 07 TD4 GS Auto
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Post #118538 30th Oct 2011 2:21 pm
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I think so as well Richard, I suppose with a worn 'skinny' and a new standard tyre on the same axle the difference could be even greater. I think both the reasons is enough to limit the speed.

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EYorkshire wrote:
I think so as well Richard, I suppose with a worn 'skinny' and a new standard tyre on the same axle the difference could be even greater. I think both the reasons is enough to limit the speed.


True.

Richard FL2 07 TD4 GS Auto
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It's a SPARE wheel, not a REPLACEMENT, therefore it is designed to get you out of trouble in an emergency whilst you get the original repaired / replaced ASAP. ______________________
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