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attox Member Since: 24 Jul 2007 Location: Genova Posts: 93 |
Hi VIKING, I am aware that I need a proper set of winter tyres as usually I did in the past. I am also considering the alternative between having a complete set (rim and tyre) as I had in the past (more practical) or just the tyres. It is a matter of costs. Hope you enjoy your week-end (hope is snowing....) I can't wait me too to get my FL 2 in January! |
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16th Oct 2007 9:54 pm |
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VIKING Member Since: 22 Sep 2007 Location: Stavern, NORWAY Posts: 389 |
Well Quercus, you are actually saying the exact same thing as I am. I am talking without studs. What I was reffering to, was that I had been strongly recommended by all experts here in Norway to go for 16" rims rather than 17" rims. One of them was the Land Rover salesman, who said this. You are quite right saying narrower tyres are better in the snow, but I guess in Finland like in Norway; You can expect to be driving on both snow, ice and pure asfalt so it is the question of finding the tyre that combines these conditions the best. And yes, Nokian is one of the tyres that performs well under all circumstances. -As Conti and Bridgestone Blizzak. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack. |
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17th Oct 2007 10:38 am |
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botterill Member Since: 16 Oct 2007 Location: Geneva Posts: 2 |
Do normal chains fit on the front 18inch tyres ? It is not cleasr from the following text:
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17th Oct 2007 4:54 pm |
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attox Member Since: 24 Jul 2007 Location: Genova Posts: 93 |
Yes, they are the only approved by LR and must be fitted on the front tyres of 17 or 18 inches wheels. |
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17th Oct 2007 5:13 pm |
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QUERCUS Member Since: 21 Jun 2006 Location: Suomi Posts: 157 |
Ah, that's what I thought... Ideally, I would need three sets of winter tyres. One set without studs for warm city climate and deep snow, one wide set with studs for freezing city and one narrow with studs for the country roads. And chains for the very unexpected... 2007 Freelander 2 HSE i6 stornoway grey black leather |
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18th Oct 2007 6:17 am |
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pelyma Member Since: 19 Feb 2006 Location: Patching Posts: 366 |
When he is back from Morrocco, speak to Chris Tyler from the D3 site, he has a fair bit of experience driving with chains or not in the Alps in deep snow etc D4 HSE Lux for me
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18th Oct 2007 8:35 am |
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VIKING Member Since: 22 Sep 2007 Location: Stavern, NORWAY Posts: 389 |
Since there was a little debate whether or not 4 chains were necessairy, I put the question to the local Norwegian Freelander forum. So far it seems noone has undestood the question, because all the replies I have received so far is: What on earth do you need chains for? They all say. Two exceptions: One adviced to let air out of the tyres rather than put chains on, and the other said; Yes I use chains when driving off road through the woods in the winther. But never on road. I also asked my salesman. What do you need chains for, he said. So, well...... 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack. |
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18th Oct 2007 10:58 am |
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attox Member Since: 24 Jul 2007 Location: Genova Posts: 93 |
Hi VIKING, from a practical point of view you are all right. I never had to use snow chains with a 4X4 or even a 2 wheel drive equipped with proper winter tyres, with two execptions: One in case the snow is very wet and frozen on a very steepy slope, second for legal requirements as already mentioned. |
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18th Oct 2007 12:18 pm |
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VIKING Member Since: 22 Sep 2007 Location: Stavern, NORWAY Posts: 389 |
Yes, a proper set of good winther tyres will do. Even now with my frontwheeldriven Chrysler Voyager (And I have no studs on my tyres.) I have never had troubles climbing up the mountainroad to my cabin. Except one time. The road was all ice. I was nervous driving up there. Imagine driving up a steep mountain road covered with ice. Well, I climbed, slipped, slided, climbed and moved foreward. (or rather upwards) Passed other vehicles who came no further. Until I could not get any further because the road was too steep and icy. Now I was only "slippin & slidin" (rock & roll, yeaahhh). There were a few other cars there who also came no further. So we stood there. And along comes a Range Rover passing us all on his way up..... -having no problems.... ( and no chains) Fortunately shortly after came a truck spreading sand on the road so we could get a grip. So we came up. Guess when the idea to get a 4x4 came to mind... But apart from that, -a good set of tyres will get you there. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack. |
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18th Oct 2007 1:10 pm |
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simon Member Since: 20 Feb 2006 Location: The Countryside Posts: 271 |
Low Range combined with a good four wheel drive system makes for a wonderful thing |
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18th Oct 2007 8:27 pm |
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PleaseHelp Member Since: 26 Jun 2007 Location: Milan Posts: 15 |
Sorry Attox ...
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29th Oct 2007 6:09 pm |
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lrlr2 Member Since: 05 Aug 2007 Location: Kaiserslauthern Posts: 106 |
so what tires are you guys switching to? ideas? |
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29th Oct 2007 6:45 pm |
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VIKING Member Since: 22 Sep 2007 Location: Stavern, NORWAY Posts: 389 |
I have chosen Conti 4x4 IceContact 225/70/16. Another alternative I can recommend is Nokian SU 5, and I have big expectations to Nokian R-SUV when they will be available early next year. I have chosen tyres without studs. 2008 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Automatic, Caspian Blue, Alpaca, Moon roof, Exclusive pack. |
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29th Oct 2007 9:46 pm |
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attox Member Since: 24 Jul 2007 Location: Genova Posts: 93 |
Hi PleaseHelp, the original LR chains are the spyder type with special discs that have to be pre-mounted to the wheels. My dealer sells also, as alternative to the original, the Maggi TRAK for SUVs size LT50 suitable for 235/65-17 and 235/60-18 tyres which have a special fitting that makes the discs unecessary. I saw them on a LR catalog, so I think they are officially approved. Do not use traditional chains because they can damage the sensors on the inside of the wheels but only spyder type chains. Let us know your impressions about driving on snow in case you find it. Have a nice trip! |
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30th Oct 2007 1:15 am |
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