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max967



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Surprise !

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/10/land-rover-to-m.html

Cool

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Post #8204 8th Oct 2007 9:22 pm
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lardy



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There's a video on the LR website demonstrating it and it say's the same about it being standard.

Not sure if I am convinced about the engine stopping at every junction especially if there are problems at the moment with the car not starting on occasion. Confused Sad Surprised

Post #8206 8th Oct 2007 9:35 pm
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NightFox



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I wonder what the "temporary" stop/start will actually involve? I was always under the impression that starting up an engine, even from warm, used a considerable amount of fuel compared to just letting the engine idle for a number of minutes.

Post #8215 9th Oct 2007 9:04 am
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Quote:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/10/land-rover-to-m.html



Oh dear Rolling Eyes another system that will prove 100% reliable Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter .. yeh right

Post #8220 9th Oct 2007 9:33 am
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Paul



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Beside the discussionable fuel savings, what about the wear of the starting motor ? Next, the wear of an engine is the highest when starting up as there is no oil pressure...
And imagine that the engine switches off every now and then during off road use. Shocked

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Just imagine waiting at a busy junction, then a gap appears in the traffic, you try to pull out quickly but realise that the engine has stopped Exclamation how frustrating would that be Question

Sounds like a load of b Censored s to me ______________________
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Post #8224 9th Oct 2007 11:50 am
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engine starting

Starting any petrol or diesel fuelled engine from standstill is the greatest wear factor. The more times the engine is stopped and started again, the more the wear on bearings, piston rings and liners. QED.

Post #8269 9th Oct 2007 9:08 pm
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Re: engine starting

chrisaviss wrote:
Starting any petrol or diesel fuelled engine from standstill is the greatest wear factor. The more times the engine is stopped and started again, the more the wear on bearings, piston rings and liners. QED.


I'm sure they've thought of that one Rolling Eyes

Post #8272 9th Oct 2007 9:26 pm
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lardy



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The video is about it is here

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Goldstone69



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Thanks for the link Lardy ... unfortunately once on the LR site clicked there watch video tab........10 minutes later still waiting for it to finish loading a sign of things to come Laughing

Have seen it now .... Rolling Eyes FL2 paramedic vehicle mmmmmmmmm hope "Jenny" doesn`t get the non start trip reset problem or Mr Patient might not make it too hospital in time Sad .

I would wait at least six months after first car has come off the assembly line then no reported problems before even considering getting one .

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I wonder why it isn't available on the automatic versions which have higher emissions and fuel consumption in the first place. How can carbon have a footprint, it has no feet?
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Sounds similar to 3 series BMWs - colleague of mine has a new 320d saloon. The BMW system works like this, if the car has been travelling for a while >20 mph then stops, the driver must select a neutral gear and then applies the hand break only then will the engine cut out. The car then waits for the clutch to be depressed at which point it starts the engine again. Been in his and this was the behaviour when we drove around Oxford. It only works if the hand break is engaged, so sat in slow traffic had no effect or at a junction. If you ask me its a way the auto industry can make the MPG and emmisions look good - under ideal driving conditions!

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I guess they may have tackled this aspect but what about on those hot summer days when you really do not want to be sat under the sun with no airco due to the engine not running!!!

I'm sure I'll see this system introduced in Dubai next year Rolling with laughter

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Gambba wrote:
I guess they may have tackled this aspect but what about on those hot summer days when you really do not want to be sat under the sun with no airco due to the engine not running!!!

I'm sure I'll see this system introduced in Dubai next year Rolling with laughter


I think i heard them say on the video that the air con will work with the engine running as normal and the start stop system will only kick in once the car reaches the correct tempreture.

Though in Dubai i think you have it on maximum cold setting all the time, so I presume the start stop system would never be used.

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