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Post #80701 15th Nov 2010 8:00 am
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Thanks redlabel.
Done the test again this morning - NO TWITCH / ORIENTATION. Headlight locked in position just as the AFS warning light states in the Owner's Handbook.

Post #80705 15th Nov 2010 9:32 am
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Dave
This morning I looked for that "Internal Lever" you mentioned in your previous post that was - quote: "stuck".

The only lever you can see on the FL2 units is the black plastic external lever to move them from lhd to rhd vis a vis when driving on left or right of road. That lever has never been touched as her ladyship's FL2 has of now never been to Blighty. Other than that you cannot see into the innards of the unit as they are encased in black plastic.

I'm not going to remove the headlight units and try and gain access inside them as I never tinker with things I don't have any experience of, or, understand. Plus if I interfered with them beyond the parameters of normal Owner usage I'd be in danger of invalidating the LR warranty.

Having checked the all the AFS fuses, checked now many times for orientation, driven the FL2 at night and not discerned any hint of adaptability I believe it is time for the Swiss LR garage to do the decent thing and acknowledged they have not fixed them and put them right (plus the other issues they failed to do) before I leave for the UK on this coming Friday. They still have not had the decency to responded to my request to do so.

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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

For info AFS also locks in the ahead position if the DRL light mode is active (as well as when reverse gear is selected).
On FLs with AFS, the AFS module also controls the headlight levelling, so it's quite possible that levelling also not working in your car, another reason for you to press the dealer for a speedy solution before you'r UK trip. Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto
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Post #80789 15th Nov 2010 8:37 pm
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Udash wrote:
For info AFS also locks in the ahead position if the DRL light mode is active (as well as when reverse gear is selected).
On FLs with AFS, the AFS module also controls the headlight levelling, so it's quite possible that levelling also not working in your car, another reason for you to press the dealer for a speedy solution before you'r UK trip.


Udash
Thanks for your input - appreciated.

Re reversing - yes I understood that was the case - no problem as when I or she reverses we have the good sense to look to the rear of the FL2.

Leveling is not working - we've been flashed a few times at night since last Thursday by on coming traffic - never had that happen in the past.

DRL - by that I'm reading the "side lights"? If so, then these are on as you turn the light switch dial through side lights to get to headlights and our side lights stay on. If you're not referring to side lights then what do you mean by "DRL".

Finally - still no response from the Swiss Dealer. Her Ladyship said last night that if any of our Swiss LR Dealer team comes in needing surgery at her hospital this week she'll use her bluntest scalpel!

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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

athelstan
Sounds like you haven't got the DRL config. When DRL enabled, head lights come on as soon as you start regardless of the lighting condition, when it gets darker AFS will work as in normal head lights.
As you confirmed that leveling is also not working maybe the dealer simply disconneted or disabled the AFS ECU just to get rid of the AFS warning light. Question Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto
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Post #80829 16th Nov 2010 9:17 am
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Udash wrote:
athelstan
Sounds like you haven't got the DRL config. When DRL enabled, head lights come on as soon as you start regardless of the lighting condition, when it gets darker AFS will work as in normal head lights.
As you confirmed that leveling is also not working maybe the dealer simply disconneted or disabled the AFS ECU just to get rid of the AFS warning light. Question


Udash
Thanks for your perseverance and responses in this - appreciated.

Just been outside (been snowing for the last 10hrs) and here's what we have on the FL2's lights when moving light switch through its 4 positions - P1 Off - P2 Side Lamps On - P3 Headlamp Dipped Beam On - P4 Auto Lamps On:
1: Ignition Off - P1 nothing, P2 on, P3 off, P4 off
2: Ignition On & Engine Off - P1 nothing, P2 on, P3 on plus SL, P4 on HDB plus SL
3: Ignition On & Engine Running - P1 nothing, P2 on, P3 on plus SL, P4 on HDB plus SL

Daylight Running Lamps aka Side Lamps as you can see, are on in P3 & P4 whenever the ignition is on, and also when engine running. However when the ignition is off the headlamps are always off despite the lighting switch dial being in P3 or P4.

The Owner's Manual states that if DRL aka Side Lamps are on, then AFS is deactivated. Which does appear by all test results to date demonstrate that her ladyship's AFS system configuration has a fault or has been inadvertently disabled.

Your thoughts?

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United Kingdom 2009 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Auto Zermatt Silver

I don't think its the DRL, as you say when you set it to Auto AFS should work. I had a look at the AFS wiring diagram, from what I can see motors in the haed light assembly don't provide a feedback to the ECU so it could be even a disconnected plug (at the ECU end, not at the headlight end). Wiring diagram don't show actual physical connector setup but from picture of the ECU it seems to have two connectors, one for connecting with CAN bus and other connector with wires going out to both head light motors. See the pic, AFS ECU is No 6. maybe you can just have a look.

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Post #80838 16th Nov 2010 11:00 am
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Udash
I've had a good look at the connectors and as far as my untrained "sparky's" eye can determine I have not discovered any loose or unattached connectors around ECU.

Oh well - this really needs a trained LR experienced professional to take a hands-on close inspection and tell me either a) I'm the village idiot and I've not been looking correctly, or, b) there is a fault and it is xyz and we've fixed it - happy night time motoring........

Cannot see what else I can do now.

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Post #80872 16th Nov 2010 5:05 pm
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Mr Pinks
I note from the video that firstly your DRL aka Side Lights come on first and then you see the headlights illuminate.

The question is are your DRL (Side Lights) on when your AFS is functioning, or, are they off when your AFS is functioning Question

-o0o-

The very same question to anyone who has fully functional adaptive headlights on their FL2 - DRL aka Side Lights on or off when your adaptive headlights are on Question

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As far as I know the side lights are on every time the lights come on

Another thing I have found is they'll only move left to right as they should when the car is moving

I found from a distance driving towards a wall, slowly, moving the steering quick'ish wheel left and right makes the light move left or right, doesn't work if driving too slowly though Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

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In the photo below, I had the lights set to on and you can just make out the xenons are on aswell as the side lights

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