I'm still amazed why you'd have a built in sat nav when the separate ones are so much better...perhaps a better solution is a better mount for TomToms and the like...Nissan are doing this now

I know you ahve to tuck away a 'stick on the windscreen one' but hey they work better, are easier to update and have more functionality (oh and cheaper too )

Richardk, Renault have started fitting a TomTom unit in certain commercial vehicles, not a windscreen mounted one but a normal TomTom unit specially designed to fit near the interier rearview mirror and I have read somewhere but cannot remember where that TomTom have started to make a proper in the dash fitted head unit which will be supplied to Ford, so things are moving that way.

Some good points raised above:-

Agree, Much nicer to have a built in unit & a reason I got the HSE but as mentioned not as good as some portable units! Why is this given the extra cost?

My Garmin unit I have & the factory unit I had in my Rover 75 & ZT both redirected you if you went off the route, this one does not do this unless I have not set something as it just lets you carry on.

Another thing I can't work out is when you first enter in the postcode but not the house number it says "Navigation will start when you join the highlighted route" - Supposing you don't know what the highlighted route is? All other units I have used tell you immediately which direction to go & if you are pointing the wrong way it tells you to turn round! (Past) Freelander 2 HSE 2010 MY In Rimini Red.
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Junior wrote:

You should of popped in-I'd have shown you where to go

npinks wrote:

Turning the AC off doesn't turn the fans off either, you'll still have the fans working, if you've turned the fans off also your getting unassisted air through the vents, set to what temp your dials are on, try closing each vent

all this from someone who couldn't work out how to change the sat nav north arrow

I think that the SatNav in the car is ok. I used TomTom for a long time and it tended to be more accurate on arrival times. I understand that the system calculates your average speeds and uses those to calculate your eta, but you have to be using it, I guess for it to work.

My thing with SatNav is that it doesn't always choose the "best route", but you do tend to get there. Where the system does let itself down (horribly) is how out of date the maps are. I know that you can log onto Navtec and advise them, I have tried... often... and given up... There are loads of roads in Suffolk that are just completely wrong! (I have got the latest maps...)

I would love it if there was a one touch after a Traffic warning, so that you could touch the screen and it would show the detail of what the delay is and how far away the delay is. You get a message advising there is a delay and that is your lot!

It has a huge bias for using A roads over B roads. There was an incident locally and it showed my journey home as about 45mins. I travelled effectively in a straight line and the journey took about 25!! What would be VERY useful would be the ability to be able to put your own speeds for roads in. TomTom used to let you do it on the PDA version and I managed to tailor my speeds so the ETA was accurate to 2-3 mins on a 2 hour journey...

Basically it is ok. Maps are out of date. Road speeds a bit screwy and as a result some of the alternative routes leave a bit to be desired.

I'll live with it  Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

On my previous cars with built in sat nav (Rover 75) that adjusted the eta time according to your speed & that system was from the mid to late 90's BMW cars. (Past) Freelander 2 HSE 2010 MY In Rimini Red.
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