The Doc wrote:

My wife and I looked at all the vehicles of this type before buying the FL2 - it was a clear winner by a mile and is the safest out of the bunch by a mile

We did the same - and came to the same conclusion. FL2

Well of course we also tried all these vehicles and several others (except the CRV) before buying. The Outlander then only had the 2.0 TDi and seemed very sluggish, but the equipment, price and guarantee were very attractive except the hard plastic dash (on the old model). Then being a BMW owner, the X3 seemed the answer, although we stopped off at a Volvo dealer who just by chance had a FL2 demo - one try and you don’t look back

The price was much more than I had originally thought of spending, but after robbing my grandchildren’s piggy banks we went for the LR. Didn’t think much about any status/pedigree as Land Rovers here are fairly rare and not popular at all (British = poor quality and problems). However it is great when hardly anybody else has a similar 4x4 and I do just smile to myself when the driving gets tough how glad we chose the Freely.  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

and because you got an fl2 you got to meet me an unexpected bonus  At work
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For us all

chicken george wrote:

and because you got an fl2 you got to meet me an unexpected bonus

And what a pleasant surprise that was  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

well you had to have some good luck eventually At work
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"I can't always believe facts I read on the web" - Charles Dickens

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chicken george wrote:

well you had to have some good luck eventually

you may call it good luck . I would call it something quite different  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

nice to know you too Andy...old pal  At work
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....old pal  2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
Stornoway Grey with Ebony Black Pleather, Clear Indicators, Body Side Mouldings etc.

Whats all this looking at all the options available, test driving, waying up which car is better malarky anyway. My car buying history of recent date has gone - Letter from BMW "We are releasing a new car, the 1 series, it's really good honest" (It was something like that) - Well I'm sold, I'll order one. Drove it once at Rockingham raceway and had that for 18 months. 3 kids and their insistance on growing put paid to that. Drove past the Subaru garage walked in and got a Forester XT, had it Prodrive'd (265bhp funny, funny, funny) and drove that for a year, but realised that I was single handlidly paying for the COE of Shell's holiday to Barbados every March. Same dealer, asked him to get me an Smax, drove it once, and had that for 3 years. Letter from LR, that'll do, I fancy a change anyway . Sorry I wasn't aware I was supposed to weigh up the pros and cons.... I've been doing it all wrong!! Anyway, where the hell is the fun in that. If we all did that, everyone would be driving a Golf!!

Anyway for anyone thinking of buying a car. Best thing to do is buy one. Hi Darling, I'll be home in 10 mins. If I'm not back, please read this message again...

Hey are you getting giddy about tomorrow, good spec, good colour

Forester XT why? At work
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Was that a question for me ?...X'Box gets his Freely tomoz

The Doc wrote:

The 2.2 L is produced by the Ford/PSA joint venture. This particular engine was designed by Ford at their Dunton and Whitley research centres. Based on compatible engine block PSA DW12.

PSA DW12
The 2.2 L (2179 cc) DW12 has a bore of 85 mm (3.3 in) and a stroke of 96 mm (3.8 in). Unlike the initial DW10 designs, it was fitted with 16 valves from the beginning, and made its debut in the 2000 with the Citroën C5 and Peugeot 607, being used only in the larger models. In 2006 it was added to the PSA/Ford family, with power reaching 170 PS (125 kW). Land Rover currently uses this engine in the new Freelander where it produces 160PS. This is Ford's only current use for this engine, which is expected to power the next generations of both the Mondeo and Jaguar X-Type. A different 2.2L engine, Ford's ZSD-422 with a displacement of 2198 cc, will be used in the Peugeot LCV range of vans.

"Important to know"

Why?