Hi Guys,

Just picked up my freelander and have sworn that I will not drive it in competitions as I own a scruffy series III for that kind of thing.

But..............

Just out of interest, where would you put a front recovery point suitable for off road recovery, seems to be some disagreement over strength of the LR fitted tow point.

also if i wanted to (which, of course, I don't) where would i get one?

Thanks

Rob I must be addicted:

Currently:

56 Freelander 2 GS
74 Series III Truck Cab

Previously

99 Discovery II TD5
84 90 CSW 3.5 V8

I recall this been ask previously and even LR could not get a definative answer Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

Maybe I should try the ALRC as it is their rules I would need to follow.

The only problem is that instead of the ALRC I may as well ask my 7 year old son. He will have as much clue and tell me so without holding 5 meetings first.  I must be addicted:

Currently:

56 Freelander 2 GS
74 Series III Truck Cab

Previously

99 Discovery II TD5
84 90 CSW 3.5 V8

I've certainly tried the front recovery point and it works.

I'd say the front seems a lot stronger than the rear.

Possibly for the rear you could fit a towbar, with a recovery style tow hitch?

Rich

Did anyone come up with a more definitive answer for this? I understand from the user manual that using the factory ones shouldn't be used off-road - has anyone tried a snatch recover using them??? is the front of the car still on  

Landrover need to be pressed for an answer on this, to produce an offroad vehicle and say dont use the recover points is daft  I appear to be addicted to Landrovers...

TD5 D-Lander hopefully finished soon!
FL2....this year with any luck!

Sorry, but you can't realy name FL2, as it is, an "off-road" vehicle...
For that (off-roading where you could need a snatch recovery) there is Defender.

ALL landrovers are off-road vehicles, 4x4, Terrain response, locking diffs, etc etc (depending on model). It varies on model from the raw defender to a FFRR vogue but all are capable in the muddy stuff and should be fitted with proper recovery points. I appear to be addicted to Landrovers...

TD5 D-Lander hopefully finished soon!
FL2....this year with any luck!

Without wanting to start a polemic, did you notice the diameter of the rear drive halfshafts?
They are about 2 centimeters in diameter. Do you think that this diameter will do much good if only one rear wheel has grip? Will snap like a stick trying to move a 2 ton car, even if the Haldex can handle and channel 1600 Nm (as advertised, which again I doubt).
Keeping that in mind, do you really think the FL2 can go and approach that type of terrain where a rigid rear axle car (like Defender) can do?
So, sorry for saying that FL2 is not a real off-roader. Indeed, one of the best SUVs in off-road situations, but not an off-roader...
For example, did you saw anywhere an oficial winch kit for FL2? No, because FL2 is not built for that.

Alex is correct, The fl2 is basically a shopping car that is very good off-road.. if you want to play off road buy a defender type.
99% of buyers dont want off road stuff so do not want the designing in of such things to affect the cost of their shopping car. At work
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alex_pescaru wrote:

Will snap like a stick trying to move a 2 ton car,

Like a defender then? Never heard of an FL breaking half shafts, but known defender problem.

Also, previously mentioned snatch recoveries, having seen a defender with a shackle buried in the rear body work, snatch recoveries are dodgy, how ever good your recovery points are, and a last resort.

I have seen a winch, not certain its LR approved, but from (I belive from Romanian LR Experience equivelent)

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Also, maybe the FL2 isn't as customisable as a Defender, but with its light weight, and good traction control, it'll get some places easier than a defender (like the grass covered hill example used at the Yorks experience centre, where the FL beats everything else there up the hill).

As for recovery points, both the Defender and the Discovery list the recovery points for "on-road" use only. So no different from the FL2.

Looking at the FL recovery points, I'd trust them.

Thanks

Rich

Yeah, I've seen those FL2s at LRA.
The (electric) winch is mounted by using six nut bolts on a metal plate of 1 cm thickness which in turn is fixed on the front metal bumper. This off course after cutting a large portion of the front bumper cover.
For sure not LR approved and looking quite strange when the winch isn't in possition, with a half inch metal plate emerging from the front of the car about 10 inches.

If bull bars are illegal for pedestrian safety reasons, the legality of that winch on UK must be questionable At work
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Many moons ago when I had a Freelander1 this question used to be asked alot over on the Freelander Club and the American Freelander forums. LR would never divulge it to the European market BUT under a lot of pressure from US owners who threatened Product Liability cases LR listed it in their USA sales literature.
Who-ever made the recovery system for the G4 Freelander2's would probably sell you one - IIRC it was Mantec who made them for Camel Trophy F1 with the L series diesel engine and the G4 F1's. It was an American style square receiver that a recovery peg was bolted into. The other advantage was that you could also mount a winch on it as Warn made a special portable winch that could be used at either end of the car and normally stowed in the back when not needed and it was attached by a peg that also fitted into the same receiver. How can carbon have a footprint, it has no feet?
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Hi guys. Well this is interesting. I just went into our local deaership and asked this very question - they looked very confused and went and got the manual so I showed them the warning about the recovery point only being able to be used on road. Then they went and found a manual for a Defender 110 hardtop - IT HAS THE SAME CYA STATEMENT IN IT - so all those saying if you want to go off-road buy a defender can

Nice lady at the dealership is phoning Landrover now and will call me back later to tell me what she finds out

Oh - if anyone has any info about the G4 FL2 that would be really useful - they don't have a list of specs for it over on the G4 owners site...

Cheers all!

John.