Has any of you used Shell V+ in a FL2 before (or similar high grade fuel), and what difference did it make?

Last week, my FL2 was running very low (prob about 15miles left in the tank), and the only petrol station in the vicinity was a Shell station that was jam packed with other drivers wanting to fill up. After about 5mins wait, it was my turn at the only available pump and it was a V+ diesel pump, so thought 'what the heck' and filled the FL2 up with it. Straight away I noticed a difference, and thought it might have been a one off and left it at that.

Earlier this week I filled it up again with V+, and the same thing has happened:

- fuel economy falls straight away. Whilst I reported that I used to get approx 33mpg, using V+ it drops to just below 31mpg.
- the automatic gearbox seems to shift later than before, maintaining higher revs
- granted it does give you more ummph when you put down


Has anyone else experienced this? The last tank was filled using bog standard diesel and the mpg has gone back to 33.....

Mine runs permanently on V-Power Diesel, you have probably noticed a drop in MPG because you are pushing the car more getting the extra performance.

I did the same, but I put it in because it keeps the fuel system clean, our car gets about 2mpg more overall and the engine is noticably quieter, the small extra you get in mpg on the long term pays for itself against the higher cost.

When I had it serviced, the technician did say the fuel filter was very clean to what they normally expect. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........

We have tried it at our works and it made no difference to MPG on our vehicles, but we did find that normal Shell Diesel we get about 2 to 3 more miles per gallon compared to other brands.

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Mav71 wrote:

Mine runs permanently on V-Power Diesel, you have probably noticed a drop in MPG because you are pushing the car more getting the extra performance.

I did the same, but I put it in because it keeps the fuel system clean, our car gets about 2mpg more overall and the engine is noticably quieter, the small extra you get in mpg on the long term pays for itself against the higher cost.

When I had it serviced, the technician did say the fuel filter was very clean to what they normally expect.

Would the engine need to get used to VPower ? Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

npinks wrote:

Would the engine need to get used to VPower ?

I try to use BP fuels as much a possible as most manufacturers and vehilce test facilitys I've used seem to think its the best - less smoke too

Proplus, is it the mind over matter syndrone, its like when you have had a problem with your FL2 and you collect it after repair it feels great and it seems quieter and goes better, with the fact you thought that you were about to run out of fuel but you filled it just in time, the rush you get from not having run out makes you feel as though its running better? p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

ad210358 wrote:

Proplus, is it the mind over matter syndrone, its like when you have had a problem with your FL2 and you collect it after repair it feels great and it seems quieter and goes better, with the fact you thought that you were about to run out of fuel but you filled it just in time, the rush you get from not having run out makes you feel as though its running better?

It would be nice if there were a way of doing a simple fuel quality comparison, particularly since my best ever economy was achieved with Morrisons Supermarket fuel

AndyT wrote:

It would be nice if there were a way of doing a simple fuel quality comparison, particularly since my best ever economy was achieved with Morrisons Supermarket fuel

Makes sense that, your engine would be thinking "Yuk I can't drink this"  p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

npinks wrote:

Would the engine need to get used to VPower ?

I was at Land Rovers emmisions and quality testing facility at Sollihull a few months ago looking at an application with work.

They bring in random Jaguar LandRover models in and test the cars to ensure on emmisions, fuel economy etc. They had an FL2 on the rolling road for 8 hours for these tests.

I was talking about fuel and the facility manager told me to avoid supermarket diesels at all costs, and that the super diesels are the best option for emmisions, mpg, performance and more importantly fuel system cleaning.

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Its very interesting hat Mav71 is saying as I never quite know whether to believe the hype or not. Certainly if the guy at LR is saying that the fuel is better for the engines and emissions and because I dont do a high mileage I would always use the premium fuel.
IT would really be good if some independent authority could provide objective, unbiased fors and against when comparing the different fuel types. The supermarket fuel concern frightens the s out of me though as I have tended to go to the supermarket garages to save a few quid.
Now what do I do? Ralph
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I also do work at MIRA (Motor Industry Research Administration for those not aware) and again I asked a similar question.

What they were telling me was interesting. The premium diesel and petrol are taken from a higher part of the refining process, which in effect is a cleaner and higher quality fuel, they then include cleaning agents into the premium diesel. The premium diesel fuel gives the engine the extra overall performance (lower emmisions, mpg, power increase) as the cleaning agents stop the build up of the deposits within the fuel system and the valves/injectors.

Once these are alot cleaner (May take a few tank fulls to even start making a difference) as the emmisions and mpg are improved, the higher cetane rating is allowed to work due to a much cleaner system.

So it all add's up. I fill our FL2 up maybe once a month so V-Power is a no brainer, but in my Signum I fill up between 3 and 5 times a month due to the mileage I do and still use V-Power diesel.

The engineer at MIRA's other comments to me was, 'they don't make this stuff for no reason and it works much better in the common rail diesel engine. The profit in the good stuff is know where near ther profit they make on the cheap stuff.

Older diesel's like VAG's pump duser and everyone elses direct injection diesel don't respond as well, but these old engines will run on cooking oil where common rail engines won't run on cooking oil very well. Common rail engines are a much more highly tuned engine and for sure thrive on the good stuff. Freelander 2 HSE Lux 2013MY - Barolo Black with Ivory Leather. Alpine DVD - Privacy -Evoque 20" Dynamic Wheels and more to come.........