Hi, just picked up a seondhand gs on Saturday and love it! Just a quick question, I have 19" wheels on the wagon but the spare is a 17". Does a 19" spare fit easily in the tyre well?
Look forward to your answers

;ames

James hall wrote:

Hi, just picked up a seondhand gs on Saturday and love it! Just a quick question, I have 19" wheels on the wagon but the spare is a 17". Does a 19" spare fit easily in the tyre well?
Look forward to your answers

;ames

Think you will find that the outside diameter is the same - its just the 19" wheels are larger and the width of the tyre wall smaller (not the inside dia of the tyre smaller ) 2007 Freelander 2 HSE TD4 Manual with Premium Pack & Moonroof.
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Thanks for the quick reply! Will have to purchase one. Does anyone know somewhere cheap?

The 19's will be 255/55 iirc

the 17's should be 235/65 iirc

But both should has the same circumfrence Former Mod/Member, with the most post & Chicken George Arch nemesis

If you manage to source a single 19" wheel with no tyre - let me know.

I'm changing all 4 of my tyres in 3 weeks.
There'll be at least 2 useable (3mm tread?) Conti Cross-contacts (235/55/19 105V) tyres I'll be looking to sell on. £30 each or both for £50.
I think the other 2 will be closer to 2.5mm, but the outside edges are 0mm.

If these are of any use to anyone - let me know before I have them changed.
Ideal for spare wheel purposes etc.

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Hi, does anyone know if the spare 17" will actually fit/work with the remainder being 19"? If the worst happens and I receive a puncture I want to know if it's a show stopper or I can look like an idiot until I limp into a tyre place?

Cheers

You will be fine, LR sent all the Freelander 2's out with 17" spares unless you chose to buy a spare from the options list or if you had the "S" version then no spare. They do advise no more than 50mph when useing it though.

You will look a bigger idiot for not fitting it and being stuck in the middle of no where worring about how you would look if you fitted it. It is just for use as an Emergency.
You'll be fine.  p****d off with a Digital Keyboard Warrior

not quite the same but I changed from 17's to 18's allround and the speedo still agrees with my garmins speed read out exactly, indicating no change in rolling radius.

OT...The speedo in my pickup truck reads 10% more than the garmin, explaining why all the other traffic was speeding in a 50 zone on the A1 when I was glued to 50 At work
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Tolerance on a speedo during manufacture is 0 to +10% so all are inaccurate, wheras the Garmin will be fairly accurate, providing it can see enough statelites with a wide enough angle of dangle.

The other type of speedo of course is a very gay looking swimming trunk 58 HSE, auto, lago grey, tints. Mine and my dogs Storm and Sky
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the freelanders speedometer is within 1% or better. At work
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Possibly, depends how you test accurate. There is a deliberate offset built into the cluster ECU calculation before it is presented to the gayometer.

If you are comparing it to the Garmin they may or may not be accurate. A GPS location can, worst case, be up to 300 metres out, therefore 2 consecutive GPS co-ordinates taken 1 second apart could in theory be up to 600 metres out and the Garmin gayometer out by a huge margin. Generally up to +- 10/20 metres is par for the course so up to 40 metres error in 1 second of travel error is common, although it is still better generally than a gayometer, particularly a gayometer on a japanese truck. Antenna type, location, planes etc all then come into it and can improve or worsen the gayometer gayness.

Don't believe a bullshit salesman guaranteeing +-3 metres, and don't believe the myth about the US military building in a deliberate error. 58 HSE, auto, lago grey, tints. Mine and my dogs Storm and Sky
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Wheels fitted with fully 'worn' tyres will roll around quicker than brand new tyres (The rolling radius of a worn tyre is shorter) and therefore the speedo needs to be set by the manufacturer so that as a minimum, it shows the correct speed or marginally too fast with the worn tyre.
Fitting 17''/18'' or 19'' tyres on your FL2 needs no speedo adjustment as the outer radius is 'about' the same - as said in an earlier post the larger the wheel the lower the wall profile is.

chicken george wrote:

not quite the same but I changed from 17's to 18's allround and the speedo still agrees with my garmins speed read out exactly, indicating no change in rolling radius.

OT...The speedo in my pickup truck reads 10% more than the garmin, explaining why all the other traffic was speeding in a 50 zone on the A1 when I was glued to 50

Surely that's the wrong way round? ie they would be doing 45 ? 

No I was judging my speed by the speedo , until I checked the garmin, I though I was doing 50 and everyone else 55. I sped up to a speedo 55 so kept at actual 50 with the traffic. there is a huge length of enforced 50mph on the A1 Leeming bar area so every mph counts.

I dont think tyre wear counts much, never checked as I replaced my tyres at 50% worn.


Sat nav accuracy can be improved but you need a better device than a garmin and a subscription to a stronger signal. Also for local use you can use your own base station for your devices to triangulate to. Useful for lazy farmers who fit GPS auto steering to their tractors (not me, it costs a small fortune)

base station
http://www.deere.com/en_ZA/products/ag/ams...l/rtk.html
subscription
http://www.deere.com/en_ZA/products/ag/ams...l/sf2.html
the no subscription accuracy:-
http://www.deere.com/en_ZA/products/ag/ams...l/sf1.html At work
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I dont think tyre wear counts much......really sorry CG but it does
Not my script copied from etyres.co.uk

A vehicle fitted with 265/70R16 (Nissan Patrol size)
A new tyre will, according to the industry standard dimensions (ETRTO) have an overall diameter (O/D) of 792mm.
Average tread depth when new will be around 10mm.
A tyre with 5mm remaining tread depth will have an overall diameter of 782mm (original O/D - [2x5mm]).
To obtain the theoretical rolling circumference of the tyre you multiply the O/D by 3.05.

Calculation:
New tyre rolling circumference
792 (original O/D) x 3.05 = 2416mm
Tyre with 5mm remaining tread depth
782 (O/D worn tyre) x 3.05 = 2385mm
Difference of 31mm
This means that the new tyre will have 31mm further to travel for every revolution of the wheel.
A tyre of this size will rotate approximately 413 times per km, therefore for every km driven the new tyre will travel an extra 12830mm or approx 13 metres!

Here endeth the lesson for today