Hi all,

I have a 2013 facelift HSE.

I have in the past had issues with the Haldex and Gearbox, now both replaced.

However, I have had the dreaded 'Gearbox Fault Traction Reduced' message several times over recent months, but only when the weather is hot. Given that the weather has been so awful, it appears to be very obvious that it only happens when the dash display shows a temperature of around 27c.

If anybody has any idea why that might be, I'd be extremely appreciative of your advice.

Many thanks in advance,

Tom.

27 degrees , should only be a problem for a couple of days then .
but perhaps a haldex service new filters clean the pump filter new oil should sort it or give you a starting point . 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

27 degrees , should only be a problem for a couple of days then .
but perhaps a haldex service new filters clean the pump filter new oil should sort it or give you a starting point . or possible wiring issue 2009 FL2 S now gone
2011 FL2 HSE AUTO
2012 FL2 XS AUTO
2000 Kawasaki er 5

I take it that you have had the 10 year service, and that includes Autobox oils, but not Haldex. (this may be irrelevant if the Haldex was changed recently)

I have read through your history - how did your previous Traction Reduced problem end?
https://www.freel2.com/forum/post436932.html#436932

Early FL2s tended to have AutoBox Flaring problems when warm, but I have not heard of this on post MY13 cars. but is the only temperature related gearbox fault I can remember.

Link to same gearbox on Volvo site (doesn't seem to be your problem)
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=285772

The number of 27c+ days that we get should not be much of a problem. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Tominator wrote:

Hi all,

I have a 2013 facelift HSE.

I have in the past had issues with the Haldex and Gearbox, now both replaced.

However, I have had the dreaded 'Gearbox Fault Traction Reduced' message several times over recent months, but only when the weather is hot. Given that the weather has been so awful, it appears to be very obvious that it only happens when the dash display shows a temperature of around 27c.

If anybody has any idea why that might be, I'd be extremely appreciative of your advice.

Many thanks in advance,

Tom.

No problems with haldex issues on our car with multiple days of mid 40ies. Sometimes just going for a brief walk in the middle of nowhere & leaving the engine running, & air conditioning!

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IanMetro wrote:

I take it that you have had the 10 year service, and that includes Autobox oils, but not Haldex. (this may be irrelevant if the Haldex was changed recently)

I have read through your history - how did your previous Traction Reduced problem end?
https://www.freel2.com/forum/post436932.html#436932

Lakelander

The more I think about your symptoms the more it sounds like Autobox (Flaring?) and not the Haldex (as it is designed to slip to varying degrees under electronic control)

This Thread describes symptoms (like momentary slipping clutch) quite well, although that case proved to be Transmission Valve Case. My post is on second page of thread -- I am not sure what the fix for flaring is, but still worth a read.

Problem 1: When the transmission is hot, such as driving uphill in the mountains, the transmission will hunt between gears multiple times within a few seconds (usually between gears 2-3 but sometimes 1-2 also) and abruptly jerk the car as it does it.

Problem 2: When pulling out of a side street into traffic while making a left hand turn only, and accelerating with approx 3/4 throttle or more, occasionally the transmission feels like it slips out of gear for a split second and slams back into gear. It's harsh enough that I try to make all of my accelerating left turns very gently with minimal throttle needed to get the job done.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38545.html?highlight=flaring

PS I had to edit this post because I mixed up the two different posters on this thread. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

Torminator

Might be worth checking for a OBD Error code that may be triggering the Traction Reduced message.
Otherwise the only think of oil viscosity changing with temperature.

I had a Traction Control message occur for a couple of weeks, about 3 years ago. It kept recurring and was checked by an AA man under my Extended warranty. It went away before I could get it fixed and has never occurred since. I thought it may have been a partially blocked Haldex filter. (If it fails I will get it replaced under warranty. FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)

IanMetro wrote:

Lakelander

The more I think about your symptoms the more it sounds like Autobox (Flaring?) and not the Haldex (as it is designed to slip to varying degrees under electronic control)

This Thread describes symptoms (like momentary slipping clutch) quite well, although that case proved to be Transmission Valve Case. My post is on second page of thread -- I am not sure what the fix for flaring is, but still worth a read.

Problem 1: When the transmission is hot, such as driving uphill in the mountains, the transmission will hunt between gears multiple times within a few seconds (usually between gears 2-3 but sometimes 1-2 also) and abruptly jerk the car as it does it.

Problem 2: When pulling out of a side street into traffic while making a left hand turn only, and accelerating with approx 3/4 throttle or more, occasionally the transmission feels like it slips out of gear for a split second and slams back into gear. It's harsh enough that I try to make all of my accelerating left turns very gently with minimal throttle needed to get the job done.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38545.html?highlight=flaring

PS I had to edit this post because I mixed up the two different posters on this thread.

Just to update... I checked the vehicle several times yesterday and even into the evening the temperature gauge was reading 25c+ and the fault message remained.

This morning at 15c, warning gone.