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charis_cy



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Terrain Response Vs Low Gears

Hello guys, this is my first post on this site. Personally i m a suzuki jimny owner and i m seriously thinking of buying a good off-road and freelander make me a click. Unfortunately my question is how good or how similar is terrain response system compare to the low ratios of other cars(i.e jimny) ....i saw some videos that showing freelander 2 having good capabilities off road but i have my hesitations ...maybe i would be very strict if i compare jimny and freelander 2 off road capabilities because is two different cars but is a way of comparison....

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chicken george



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terrain response is only a driver aid and will not make the car handle rocks and deep ruts any better , first gear is a bit high on the fl2. why not consider an auto if you are doing a lot of slow speed off road driving At work
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Post #43332 17th Jun 2009 9:51 am
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charis_cy



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chicken george wrote:
terrain response is only a driver aid and will not make the car handle rocks and deep ruts any better , first gear is a bit high on the fl2. why not consider an auto if you are doing a lot of slow speed off road driving


what do you mean an auto? i m not consider to take freel2 to the places that i m going with jimny but i don't want it to be soft

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chicken george



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automatic gearbox. At work
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Post #43334 17th Jun 2009 10:01 am
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charis_cy



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charis_cy wrote:
chicken george wrote:
terrain response is only a driver aid and will not make the car handle rocks and deep ruts any better , first gear is a bit high on the fl2. why not consider an auto if you are doing a lot of slow speed off road driving


what do you mean an auto? i m not consider to take freel2 to the places that i m going with jimny but i don't want it to be soft


Hehe at the time being i m considering first of all the whole car and then the gearbox, y automatic is better?

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Chris B



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Auto saves slipping clutch when going very slowly over rough ground, hence the recommendation if you are doing lots of that sort of off-road driving. You also drive hills in a different way in an auto, less reliance on momentum and more use of the traction control. In manual Freelander, faster progress to keep momentum can lead to ground clearance issues as the suspension is working more.

I have a manual and I have been off-road plenty of times but nothing too rough for very long (I value my body panels as well). If you accept that slipping the clutch for extended periods can cause damage, you can often adapt your driving to suit.

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Dorko



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The Terrain Response works very well. Personally i would love to have low range, however i would need to buy a D3. My FL2 walks all over my mates Navara and i always keep up with the big boys EG. D3's Thumbs Up

Buy a auto and diesel, more power and easy to drive offroad

Only killer/ limiter is the ground clearance.



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Nazca Sand Eddie



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Having a lower gear ratio might be nice, but the automatic box goes a long way towards mimicking it.

I have found using my FL2 in some really serious off-road situations down in Spain that the Terrain Response feature is much more than a just a driver's aid.

Having lots of low down power helps as well - 400nm.

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to be pedantic the traction control helps when off-roading, terrain response just makes things a little easier (or more difficult if you choose the wrong setting). Im sure an S spec fl2 without TR can travel anywhere other fl2's can go as it still has traction control Thumbs Up At work
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charis_cy



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do you have some examples of what TR is doing in the different modes? i mean what does it change between driving in sand and driing in mud....personally i choose low gear to both of this situation in my car

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Dorko



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Sand Mode, basically turns off traction control and reduces the DSC. Personally the only way to really 4WD in soft sand is to fully turn off the DSC also the acceleration is very touchy, which is great. Not sure what else is does in this mode

Grass and Gravel mode, has the most traction in any mode. I have used this a lot down south and works brilliant on lose surfaces.

Mud and Ruts..... well what a awesome mode! Thumbs Up Its perfect what can i say.... Works a treat in mud and ruts, the car just climbs anything it fits on. Personally i would upgrade your tires if you want to go in more mud.


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"Switch to the farthest right position, and a desert-rock icon appears on the information screen and the transmission will hold gears longer than normal or as you select in SportShift mode, with the traction control set aggressively. It assumes you're in some serious slow-motion, low-traction situation and need the added control. It'll also lock the center differential to provide maximum torque to the front and rear driveshafts. 

Dial back over to the grass/gravel/snow setting, which has a snowflake for a dash icon, and the trans will start in second gear, tone down the traction control, and round off any engine horsepower and torque peaks.
Click once more to the sand setting, and the traction control all but eliminates the wheelspin sensor, permitting the wheels to spin like crazy, just the way a dune runner would want racing up and down (and across) dune faces. Likewise, the trans shift points firm up a bit, and the braking becomes gentler as well. The only trade-offs holding the LR2 back from being a trail killer is its limited ground clearance (which actually makes it a demon on the pavement) and more aggressive and taller tires, which would also work against its pavement prowess."

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