Hello

I was hoping I might get some advice, pointers on what issue I might be having with the following symptoms of my 07 Diesel Auto Freelander

- When Starting, the engine sounds like it drops right down in revs, almost like it about to stall, then doesn't
- Once stalled when reversing. When reversing in general, engine sounds like its about to stall.
- Seems to have very low power when under 2k revs, or starting off the line (foot planted to the floor, but nothing)
- Once had no power when leaving the end of my road, to the point had to pull over and restart the car (no issues later in that journey), note, car had been sat for a week and maybe started once or twice to move it around the driveway
- Fuel MPG is about 20-22
- No lights on the dashboard at any point

I've done some google searching, and its lead to a few possibilities, however, I wanted to ask this group to get unbiased thoughts

Thanks in advance!

Fuel filter???

Crank sensor?? 2013 FL2 XS.
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Any OBD faults reported on scanner?

Any Messages on dashboard?

Is the battery getting old and not giving sufficient power to electronics during start up?
(You say that a restart cures problem, start up faults are often the battery) FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
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Does the battery light come on ? If so common thing put it in park and rev or turn off and start again

Thanks for the replies

@Rommel - Possibly, wouldnt know where to start to check that
@IanMetro - I don't have a scanner. There are no messages or warning. No lights on the dash
@SYFL2 - No battery light comes on



These lights appear when first starting, all disappear, leaving only the handbrake.

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Sounds like typical battery problems - random faults following start up.
With luck you should be alright until the cold weather sets in next Autumn.
Then get a new battery at the first sign of problems.

Having said that, you may have seen me take a different approach in my post.
I am trying to get over the symptoms by keeping my battery charged now and again, and I have a modern Lithium Battery Booster for emergencies.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic38965.ht...ry+charger

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i get loss of power ,ie limp mode,when its been cold,and unused for a week or so,i can also get the same problem if i put the heated seat on, and the battery is still in a low state of charge.the battery is an agm,and not very old.so i leave a ctek charger connected and this cures the problem.

Good evening, I had this very occasionally where in reverse the engine and gearbox twists on its mountings and was pulling the cables/wiring loom below the nearside headlight (a well known fail). Where cables are shorting to chassis. This would only happen reversing my caravan when the engine/gearbox is under strain. A simple fix.

Yes also to the fuel filter a possible problem there with engine load.

The crank sensor is also a possible failure but I think would put a engine management system light on.

Good evening, I had this very occasionally where in reverse the engine and gearbox twists on its mountings and was pulling the cables/wiring loom below the nearside headlight (a well known fail). Where cables are shorting to chassis. This would only happen reversing my caravan when the engine/gearbox is under strain. A simple fix.

Yes also to the fuel filter a possible problem there with engine load.

The crank sensor is also a possible failure but I think would put a engine management system light on.

@Sl0wM0Beagle

How many miles since last service and fuel filter change ?

How old is the battery ? Jules

Sl0wM0Beagle wrote:

Hello

I was hoping I might get some advice, pointers on what issue I might be having with the following symptoms of my 07 Diesel Auto Freelander

1-When Starting, the engine sounds like it drops right down in revs, almost like it about to stall, then doesn't
2- Once stalled when reversing. When reversing in general, engine sounds like its about to stall.
- Seems to have very low power when under 2k revs, or starting off the line (foot planted to the floor, but nothing)
3- Once had no power when leaving the end of my road, to the point had to pull over and restart the car (no issues later in that journey), note, car had been sat for a week and maybe started once or twice to move it around the driveway
4- Fuel MPG is about 20-22
5- No lights on the dashboard at any point

I've done some google searching, and its lead to a few possibilities, however, I wanted to ask this group to get unbiased thoughts

Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the replies. For some reason I don't get an email when someone replies, even though the option is ticked...

I checked the battery, it was reading 12.1, then after a run it was back up to 12.5. So it's something I'm going to monitor and check periodically.

@Jules, tbh I'm not 100% sure, need to dig out the service book, but TBH recon it's overdue! I only got the car a 4,5 months ago. I know it had its had the EGR, Timing belt & break fluid changed just before I bought it

@IanMetro, thanks. RE your point 4, thanks for flagging that. TBH, right now I am only doing sub 15 mile journeys. Plan to do a longer run this weekend, so will be good to see how it improves

Fun story, also just filled it up to full tank for the first time and I think I broke the gauge, as it now only shows 3/4 full, but I know its full because I tried to fill it up again (thinking the tank was empty) and it clicked after 2 liters

I've got an OBD scanner on order.

Mine usd to start ok, but randomly didn't want to know when i put it in gear. No power, no pull away. Back in to neutral, ran fine, rev'ed ok. In drive, no go. No warnings. At first no codes found by dealer either.

Eventually died on me. Managed to restart it, nursed it to dealer. Code read (again) said EGR & Oxy sensor. Over £800 later, picked it up, no problems.

Much later had crank sensor symptoms, couple of stalls, eventual restart. In addition had random repetitive faults with Sat Nav/Radio/BT, all MOST related. After 8 years ownership, part exed it. Dealer code read = 32 historical faults, MOT revealed both broken front springs. Made the right decision.

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Fuel Gauge Problems - could be tank wiring - causes low power

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic37591.html?highlight=fuel+gauge FL2 XS SD4 Auto 2010 2012-2017 (21k - 91k miles) (MY2011)
FL2 Metropolis SD4 Auto 2014 2017- (16k - 77k+ miles) (MY2015)
Metro in its 11th Year of (Extended) LR Warranty / Full LR Service History
(Expensive, but Trouble/Worry free - hopefully?)