The twisty dipstick seems to be something Peugot has designed in , their other engines have the same twirly thing. Of course if the petrol unit has the same twirly dipstick , then that blows that theory out the water!

m1964 wrote:

The maintenance/oil change period here in the US is 6 months or 7500 miles as per my dealer. They tell me that LR2 comes filled with synthetic oil -any one knows if it's true?

I used to change regular oil at 3000 miles on a new car, and 2500 on my old volvo (over 150K miles), so 7500 is unusual, but if it is filled with synthetic at the factory, it should be fine.

Any one here knows the answer?

Thanks

yeomanrycavalry wrote:

Use the synthetic oil. I always try to use Mobil 1 as I have a GTO that requires it, but I want my LR2 to last a long time and so it gets the same treatment.

2.2TD4 spec is ford 913B, bought a litre of Castrol GTX 5W30 Magnatec at the weekend which is fully synthetic....I think, well wants to be at £9.99/litre

If you think oil for the freelander is confusing, my car is a Golf 2.0 TFSI GTi, it uses Castrol Edge to VW/Audi spec 504, now Castrol have done away with the SLX longlife etc all the packaging is exactly the same for Castrol Edge of different spec and you have to look really carefully for the spec....trust mine to be the most expensive at £13.99/litre.

Tash, I think you will find that Magnatec is only semi-synthetic.

I bought a 4.5 + 1 litre pack on special offer from Halfords for £26.99!

It's confusing, even after checking on the Castrol website (may be that should be because of checking the Castrol web site!)

There is Castrol GTX Magnatec 5W-30 Car Engine Oil - which is semi synthetic - meets 913B

There is also Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1 - which is probably also semi synthetic - meets 913A & 913B


I not sure it is right to say the full synthetic is absolutely better than semi synthetic, I thinks there is also an element of making sure you have the right oil for the job, and that will not always be fully synthetic.

In terms of oil spec's there is a lot of misuse of the word 'synthetic' which has arisen since a court case in America about 10 years ago, where the use of the word synthetic was accepted in relation to products that were by no means fully synthetic.

For anyone who has the time to read it, here is a link to a discussion on the 'honest john' motoring forum, there are some very good (if rather technical) posts in a thread that was started about Magnatec oils ..... http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/ind...61&v=e

This is a quote form one of the posts there ... "Well, it was all sorted in a legal battle that took place in the USA about ten years ago. Sound reasons (including evidence from a Nobel Prize winning chemist) were disregarded and the final ruling was that certain mineral bases that had undergone extra chemical treatments could be called “synthetic”.

Needless to say, the marketing executives wet their knickers with pure delight! They realised that this meant, and still does, that the critical buzz-word “synthetic” could be printed on a can of cheap oil provided that the contents included a few percent of “hydrocracked” mineral oil, at a cost of quite literally a few pence".

These comment was not aimed at Castrol products but was meant to demonstrate that the meaning of the word synthetic was no longer as clear as it had been before the court case that is referred to to.

Cheapest place for Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1 for topping up TD4s appears to be the large Tesco Extra stores selling it for approx £13.50 for 2 litres.
Saw this day after giving £9.99 in Halfords (most expensive motorist shop in world but open at 7pm) for 1 litre.

Just checked in the garage the Castrol 5W30 A1 to Ford 913B spec I have in a 1 litre bottle from Halfords for £9.99 bought on Sunday says it is fully synthetic, unless the bottle is wrong?!

Typical should have tried Tesco or the 2 litre pack, never mind

JMMYM wrote:

Cheapest place for Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1 for topping up TD4s appears to be the large Tesco Extra stores selling it for approx £13.50 for 2 litres.
Saw this day after giving £9.99 in Halfords (most expensive motorist shop in world but open at 7pm) for 1 litre.

NightFox wrote:

Cheapest place for me is my dealer who said they'd top up any loss for me FOC. Anyone know what oil the dealers are using?

To all interested:
the word "synthetic" is not protected anywhere, so saying that a specific motor oil is "fully synthetic" is not against the law, even though such oils are NOT sythetic from a process point of view. Castrol with its Magnatec-line does not produce any "fully synthetic" motor oil. Most Castrol oils and oils from other vendors are HC-oils, which means Hydro Crack oils. As the word implies, these oils are produced by hydro cracking the base oil and adding certain additives to arrive at the wanted quality and viscosity.
Even the Shell Helix Ultra oils are HC-oils blended with systhetic oils.
One of the only really fully synthetic oils is MOBIL 1 0W40 or 5W40 syntron, probably the best motor oil you can buy on the market. The HC-oils and the synthetic oils differentiate itself by the HTHS value of 2,5 to 3,0 for the HC-oils and over 3,5 for the synthetic oils. The HTHS value identifies the shearing (clipping) stability of the molecules in a range of temperatures. Such oils are internationally identified by ACEA A3/B3/B4. The higher the better. Landrover recommends to use motor oils as per the Ford norm 913A/B. This norm classifies the oils as per ACEA A1/B1 as HC oils. I would recommend to everybody who cares for his/her engine to use fully synthetic motor oils according to ACEA A3/B3/B4 (must be writtern on the bottle) particularely under the quite long oil change intervall as recommenden by Landrover of 24.000 km in Europe.
This excursion has been cut short to save time. So not all relevant information in relation to oils are included.

Yamaha-Fan

Wow, I will print out your post before buying oil -just kidding...

But very clear explanation deserves a credit!

I have also had to add about 1/2 litre (approc 7000 km). I have discovered an interesting quirk in the i6 and now i am worried that i may have overfilled by approx 1/4 litre. I get a different oil level reading depending on which way i insert the dipstick??? One way it reads "full" but flip it around and take another reading and it looks like about 1/4" above the full mark. Yikes! Have I overfilled??????

Any comments? Suggestions?

thanks!

GG

What mobil1 oil to use for TD4? No CASTROL MAGNATEC 5W-30 A1 in Cyprus only CASTROL 5W-30 SLX LongLife II

tnx The first one !!!

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Gibbergump, the oil dipstick has a yellow plastic on top. One side has Engine written on it and should face front and the other Motor and should face the engine. The reading will be no good the other way round.