HB3 / HB4 Philips Ultinon Pro9000 LED Headlights.

Looking to upgrade my headlights to LED, these come at a cost but hoping because of cost & the fact they are Philips they will be a good replacement for halogen.

At the risk of sounding like a it does say on the website they are not legal on public roads.
As far as I'm aware no aftermarket LED bulbs are legal for normal use due to the spread pattern.
Taken from the Philips website:-


It is your own responsibility to ensure that the use of the LED retrofit lights complies with applicable local legal requirements.

The lamps are not permitted to use on public roads.

*Compared to the minimum legal standard for halogen bulbs. Up to +200% for Ultinon Pro9000 HL [H1] and [H3] types.
**For extended warranty (+1 year/ +3 years) of your Philips headlight bulbs, please contact our call center to register them.

also an MOT fail now Stewart
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200% brighter is not much brighter.

Brightness is inverse square. So you need 400% for twice as bright.


Here is halogen globe that are 100% brighter, basically nothing in it.

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic29503.html

The problem with LED is you may have more light, but if the spread is not exactly correct, ie more foreground light, it won't be any brighter in the distance where it is needed, more than likely less light.

Also 3200k globes have far better CRI than 6000k. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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blueboy wrote:

HB3 / HB4 Philips Ultinon Pro9000 LED Headlights.

Looking to upgrade my headlights to LED, these come at a cost but hoping because of cost & the fact they are Philips they will be a good replacement for halogen.

This has been extensively discussed in another thread - they are technically illegal but if they are properly designed (LED position matching HB3 filament position) then they will give the same light output pattern and it is highly unlikely they will fail an MOT. Same applies to HID replacement bulbs for the HB3 as sold by ABD etc.

At the end of the day you have to decide what you are personally comfortable with. If you want to stick with the letter of the law then you have to stick with halogen lamps. If you do swap them then make sure the beam pattern is still correct because some LED bulbs scatter light everywhere and are a menace to other road users.

(the other thread - https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic36279.html )

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Looks like the members are a set of upstanding, law abiding, citizens so no-one has tried them.

Give them a go and let us reprobates know how you got on.  Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Would his 2007 MY have HB3 bulbs? MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

MY 15 SD4 SE Auto Orkney Grey with colour coded Bumper Door Mouldings

He has a 2014 HSE according to the other thread.

tenet wrote:

Would his 2007 MY have HB3 bulbs?

I would just add that I am not a driver who dont give a damn about others & happily blinds/dazzles other drivers with cheapo over wattage lamps.

If I fit these & I am constantly flashed by others coming the other way I will take them out & have to think of something else.

I have driven the car at night & they are pretty poor in use as they are, I would ordinarily just upgrade the halogens to a better brighter halogen bulb but from what I have read that just makes things worse because more heat more problems.

Very surprised that Land Rover fitted such rubbish lights to a premium car.

one of the reason that HIDs must auto level is also that they are an arc light, when they first strike up they point towards the floor to prevent blinding oncoming traffic. Tangiers Orange - gone, missing her
Replaced by Ewok what a mistake - now a happy Disco Sport owner

Just to re-kindle this older thread of mine still looking to do something. Nights are starting to draw in a bit now & in the next month or two will try to upgrade my headlights.

I just spoke to my insurers (as just changing) she told me its not classed as a major modification & so did not want to know about it, I have the conversation with her sent by email just in case.

Still looking at the Philips Ultinon Pro9000 unless anyone out there has tried something else with good success. 2014 Freelander 2 HSE Orkney Grey. Now sold.

I keep pushing the escape button but I am still here.

Why not just use an HiD conversion instead, on a good set the filament will be in exactly the same point as the halogen bulb and give the same output (give or take a knots cock) as the LED bulbs, which can never give a perfect beam pattern as they are a two sided filament and do give 360 degree output.

HiD are just as illegal but probably less likely to raise an eyebrow at MoT time as Freelanders did come with HiD projector lamps on top versions. Regards

David

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Please let me know if anything in my post offends you, as I may wish to offend you again......

I was just a bit worried at MOT time as my headlights have a Halogen sticker on them, when they put the lights on they may notice the delay more easily as they warm up, mind you I suppose I could rip the sticker off.

Do the HID's get very hot, I dont want to melt my headlight reflectors.

My 2014 HSE would have been HID if it had been a HSE Luxury I guess, I bet it would still have the same headlight units that are in my car now, just have additional auto leveling & HID bulbs fitted instead of the halogens. 2014 Freelander 2 HSE Orkney Grey. Now sold.

I keep pushing the escape button but I am still here.