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Northcroft



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver
flickering rear LED tail light bulb removal . . . .how ?

I notice the passenger side rear tail light flickers, ONLY when tested without the engine running, seems okay otherwise, but, I was going to see if it was something wrong with the bulb and swap sides with the opposite bulb . . .

QUESTION : - has anyone removed this bulb before, I reckon its the top one on the block of lights, all the others look like they readily turn, this one is a bit different, it doesn't easily turn, I don't want to force it, is there some knack to getting the bulb out ?
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Northcroft



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver

update, checked the wiring over and it all looks okay, plugged the lamp unit back in and the side light does not come on at all Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

so instead of trying to swap a bulb, I swapped left to right rear lamp units as the socket is the same on both, the previous dodgy tail light works on the other side, and the previously good light fails to work on the passenger side.

Therefore lamp units okay, fault somewhere on the car, is there a fuse for the tail lights? If so would it be correct to assume it covers both sides not just one?
 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
2007 HSE with HST bodykit in Zermatt Silver 169,700 miles (dec 2016 - May 2022 )
2007 Honda Civic Type S GT (2012-2017)
2002 Mini Cooper S (2008-2012)
1992 Honda Legend 3.2i (2003-2008)
1990 Honda Concerto (1999-2003)
1985 Honda Accord (1997-1999)
1983 Honda Accord (1993-1997)
1983 Mini Mayfair (1988-1993)
1974 Mini 1000 (1979-1986)

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Northcroft



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver

seemed to have self corrected Bow down Bow down
case closed 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
2007 HSE with HST bodykit in Zermatt Silver 169,700 miles (dec 2016 - May 2022 )
2007 Honda Civic Type S GT (2012-2017)
2002 Mini Cooper S (2008-2012)
1992 Honda Legend 3.2i (2003-2008)
1990 Honda Concerto (1999-2003)
1985 Honda Accord (1997-1999)
1983 Honda Accord (1993-1997)
1983 Mini Mayfair (1988-1993)
1974 Mini 1000 (1979-1986)

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Andy131



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From the wiring diagram the sidelights are fed from FETs - transistors, a single transistor feeds the left front and rear. Another FET feeds right front and rear.

Here is the fun bit, the transistors actually measure current, so insufficient current (blown bulb) and the system knows and could actually tell you - that it doesn't is just meanness on LRs part. Too much current = short circuit or too large a bulb 9accidentally put a 25W bulb where a 5W bulb should be.

So too much current and you have two options,
(1) cut the power until the system is cycled and try again - so ignition off and on.
(2) pulse the power until either you are satisfied that there is a real fault then got to (1), or just pulse the power until the bulb finally fails.

You could also pulse the power if you suspect a bulb has blown - BMW 5 series does

This does mean that the fault could actually be at the front of the car !!


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Page 1 far right "G" front sidelights "R" rear sidelights left side
Page 1 far right "L" front sidelights "T" rear sidelights right side


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Northcroft



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England 2007 Freelander 2 TD4 HSE Manual Zermatt Silver

wow . . .too techie for me, flickering LED seems to appear when battery is a bit rundown, but all is well for now, its only a side light and I don't go out in the dark at my age Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter 2017 SEAT Ateca 4drive 2.0 xcellence (May 2022 -
2007 HSE with HST bodykit in Zermatt Silver 169,700 miles (dec 2016 - May 2022 )
2007 Honda Civic Type S GT (2012-2017)
2002 Mini Cooper S (2008-2012)
1992 Honda Legend 3.2i (2003-2008)
1990 Honda Concerto (1999-2003)
1985 Honda Accord (1997-1999)
1983 Honda Accord (1993-1997)
1983 Mini Mayfair (1988-1993)
1974 Mini 1000 (1979-1986)

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Andy131



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You could always do as many seem to do these days and "use the force" - they know where they are going so everyone else should do.
Particularly at fault are those with front daytime driving lights - they can see where they are going as they are designed to be noticed in strong sunlight, they might be blinding oncoming traffic at night but that's not their problem. No rear lights - don't need them to see where they are going.

Rant over

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