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Mcvdbp



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Timing Chain renewal - when best ?

Hi All, I've had my FL2 ( TD4 ) since new in 2014 , its coming up for its 7th Birthday and would have completed 83K trouble free miles. Its been serviced without fail in all those years, however I'm concerned about the timing chain and belts etc... Do they need replacing now ? and if so what other ancillary bits are also best done at the same time ? Any guidance, suggestions welcome !

cheers Freelander 2 2014 XS TD4
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GundogSD4



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Timing belt kit and water pump Thumbs Up

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gasman



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Agree with above.
Get a Gates kit. Also do the auxiliary belt at the same time as its already off. Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
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Mcvdbp



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Thanks Guys, last question is this a "big" job and could it be tackled as a DIY exercise ? or do you need special tools and a lift as access is tight ?

Lastly , do you recommend where best to buy parts up North !?

Cheers... Freelander 2 2014 XS TD4
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Mcvdbp



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Woah...just reviewed on You Tube what i was contemplating and ,,,,nope it's going to a be a garage job !, the only thing I can contribute is finding a good one at a reasonable price. Freelander 2 2014 XS TD4
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tenet



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Very sensible Mc - you always have someone else to blame if things dont pan out. MY 09 GS manual in Lago Grey, Wood Co arm rest and side bumper strips - now sold.

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jules



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Mcvdbp wrote:
Woah...just reviewed on You Tube what i was contemplating and ,,,,nope it's going to a be a garage job !, the only thing I can contribute is finding a good one at a reasonable price.


Here is a pic of the "timing belt " . The replaceable belt drives the water pump and the exhaust camshaft. The inlet camshaft is driven by a chain from the exhaust camshaft - that chain doesn't need replacing.
You need to replace belt (13), water pump(9) and tensioner/idle pulleys (14-8 )




The auxiliary belt is not shown. Jules

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alex_pescaru



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....that chain doesn't need replacing.

That's debatable, especially for high mileage cars...
There was cases when the tensioner failed and the chain slowly destroyed itself and later the engine when broke...
The idea is, if you open the camshafts area and/or you hear chain noise on the top left of the engine, you better change the chain and its tensioner.
Not to mention that chains also get old and stretched during time...

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jules



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I was thinking probably not required on a 83K mile car - but agreed as the miles roll on many things will need replacing eventually - piston rings, main bearings, camshafts etc etc Jules

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alex_pescaru



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Now you're pulling my leg... Laughing Laughing Laughing

I was mentioning that because on my car, also, sometimes during hot engine, I am hearing the chain spinning.
I believe that this is true on many cars, but slip unnoticed because many are not used to "listen" to their cars and their engine cover is on, muffling many of the engine high pitched sounds.

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jules



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yeah in part Laughing

But I think cam chain wear is something that would get picked by the more experienced of us on here - like your good self.
I certainly wouldnt notice a change in engine noise unless it was really obvious. Jules

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gasman



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Mcvdbp
Don't put yourself down. It's not that bad a job if you do it step by step and take your time.
Instead of thinking of it as a big job, think of it as lots of small jobs which need to be done in order.
Apart from the kit itself you will require the cam and fly wheel locking kit. Plenty of them on eBay. Smile

Just to give you an idea of the difficulty. I did mine a couple of years ago. Just got out of hospital with 'vasculitis' and 'peripheral neuropathy' Legs like jelly and very little strength in the arms. But the weather was good and I was board. Best of all it's a job that can be done mostly sitting down. I'll be honest it did take me almost three days but I wasn't in a hurry. Smile

You also get full instructions with the gates kit. Thumbs Up Now at the point when I learn something new something old is lost out the other side !
Now retired so it doesn't matter anymore.
Freelander now gone.

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jules



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Its on my list of jobs for September. Jules

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Mcvdbp



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Thanks all for your input, i've decided on a local garage solution, which when complete allows me to start thinking about driving the next 80K or so....before thinking about it again.

Cheers. Freelander 2 2014 XS TD4
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