IanMetro wrote:

I remembered reading this from a few years ago, which includes some comments from Bell Engineering, about haldex coupling symptoms and possible causes.

(I think the tyre wear problems where on the FL1 which had a physical mechanical control of locking up the centre drive clutch.

The FL2 has electronic control of that (Haldex) inter-axle clutch, so should not have problems if unit is serviceable.)

https://www.freel2.com/forum/topic25936.html

PS I have just changed out all 4 tyres, as the original ones lasted 50k miles and 6 years, I thought it not worth playing around trying to get the last few miles from the least worn tyre(s). - and safer too!

A few quid. The best price for these in the UK is £92.50... So on 4 its a saving over £130... So you'd pay this much more instead of waiting a few weeks??

The reason the manual says recommended to change all 4 at once is this : Suppose one axle had 8mm tread on new rubber , one axle has 1.7 mm tread . It’s raining , you’re tanking down the motor way at 85 mph and have to emergency brake . Depending where the new rubber is you’ve got weight transfer giving a dangerous loss of grip , potential understeer potential over steer . I’ve never bothered as I never let the tyreS get anywhere near minimum before I change them 2009 GS Auto Zermatt Silver - Sold June 21 after 10 years of ownership

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When I got my 14 reg SD4 three years ago at 27k miles I put four new Wrangler tyres on it. Now at 55k miles the fronts have 5mm tread and the rear 4mm (and getting noisy on some road surfaces). How did this happen? 3 x FL1 2 manual + 1 auto
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freelander beaver wrote:

neither... I picked them up on my BMW motorbike... so could only get 2 at once ..

Got a funny mental image of you riding your bike with 2 tyres slung around your waist, like the michelin man.  Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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dorsetfreelander wrote:

When I got my 14 reg SD4 three years ago at 27k miles I put four new Wrangler tyres on it. Now at 55k miles the fronts have 5mm tread and the rear 4mm (and getting noisy on some road surfaces). How did this happen?

That is very strange as the FL2 is mainly front wheel drive hence the front always wear out faster than the rears unless you drive permanently in reverse as for Wranglers they do get noisy when 1/2 worn.

Bobupndown wrote:

freelander beaver wrote:

neither... I picked them up on my BMW motorbike... so could only get 2 at once ..

Got a funny mental image of you riding your bike with 2 tyres slung around your waist, like the michelin man.

to get 4 thats what I'd have to do!, but they did just strap down the the back seat and rack
They are bigger than you think when they are off

In my ownership of a Freelander 2 (63 plate) for the last 4 years and 42000 miles I would put the new tyres on the rear(this has worked for me) unless there is very little depth in tread. Say 8mm on front and 7mm on rear. Did this 3k miles ago and is working for me

Its not always possible to replace all 4 at the same time.

The fronts do wear down quicker than the rears dont seem to wear down

In my experience I have always put the new ones on the rear

In response to others Goodyear Wranglers start to make more noise (like a wheel bearing worn) as the thread depths reduce.

That's my experience and am happy with what I've done.

I normally swap mine front to rear ever 5000 miles which keeps them even and gives me a chance to give the insides of the wheels a good clean (and polish ) Landrover - turning owners into mechanics since 1948

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I do exactly the same then change all 4 same time.

The owner's manual specifically states 'Do not rotate tyres around the vehicle' and adds a hazard warning for good measure.

After a trip around Australia I had 6 tyres each with a different depth, lots of plugged holes, a couple of different makes. One can't be too fussy in the outback, one is lucky to get a tyre the right size, or simply to even get a tyre for that matter!

After that trip bought 6 new tyres. Soon I will rotate the 2 spares to front of the car. Procrastination, mankind's greatest labour saving device!

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Bobupndown wrote:

I normally swap mine front to rear ever 5000 miles which keeps them even and gives me a chance to give the insides of the wheels a good clean (and polish )

The handbook actually says, “Do not rotate tyres around the vehicle” so at a guess, it'll be to do with directional tyres...

... proper rotation is going to put directional tyres on the wrong side of the car unless the tyres swapping sides are taken off their rims, turned and refitted to run in the right direction. A lot of faffing indeed but simply moving fronts to the back and the back pair to the front in same side pairs makes sense to even out the wear over the life of a set of tyres.


Can’t really see a problem with non directional tyres though.




Last edited by ReggiePerrin on 18th Oct 2020 4:42 pm. Edited 3 times in total

Think it is to do with the tyres bedding-in to a particular position and not giving full grip when changed to a different position until they bed-in again. Could also mean they wear quicker every time they are moved.