Hello to all.

I've been visiting this site (as guest) for a few years now and taken some great snippets of information, extra earthing etc. Thanks to all the contributors 👍

I've owned my 2007 FL2 for about 5 years now and can honestly say that its one of the best cars Ive owned. I bought it mainly to tow our caravan.
I've never had a problem until now

I got into the car yesterday, put the fob into the port and attempted to start her up.
All of the usual dashboard lights came on but the engine won't crank?

I called the AA. The bloke tested the battery (2yrs old) and went through the start procedure and still no crank?

He's said he can hear the body control module? click clacking away but still no crank.

After checking numerous fuses he got it going by (with the ignition on) bridging a wire from the starter motor small terminal to the positive battery terminal. It started no problems?

Just to add, eveything works as it should and no error messages are displayed.
Once the engine is starred (with the dodgy wire) I can drive the car without problem.

Has anyone else experienced the same issue??

Thanks in advance 👍

It sounds like a dirty or corroded bad earth ?

Thee AA bloke said that there was no power going to the smaller terminal on the starter, when the engine should crank?

He put a test on it and I tried to start it up.

Not sure if this helps?

I'd start by looking at fuse FE15 in the battery junction box, that supplies power to the starter solenoid via the starter relay, R102, also in the BJB, or is could be the relay itself that has failed, bad contacts perhaps.

I'll check that out.
Thanks you 👍

SYFL2 wrote:

It sounds like a dirty or corroded bad earth ?

CliveS wrote:

I'd start by looking at fuse FE15 in the battery junction box, that supplies power to the starter solenoid via the starter relay, R102, also in the BJB, or is could be the relay itself that has failed, bad contacts perhaps.

D1GG3R wrote:

SYFL2 wrote:

It sounds like a dirty or corroded bad earth ?

Where do I start? 🤯

I suppose it can only be the lead the goes to the smaller of the two connections on the starter motor, grey &, blue I think it is?
This goes into the loom and gets lost???

Where does it go??

Should be Brown/Blue and it goes from the starter solenoid to the normally open contact of R102.

I could be that the wire has been exposed at some point in the loom and chafed/worn through, I just recently had a case of that on mine where the wire going to the fan control module had been rubbing against the gearbox casing and stopper the aircon fan from running, it's in about the same area.

Thanks for that..
I'll try and have a look tomorrow. Does that fuse/relay board lift out??

.. Does that fuse/relay board lift out?? ..

Not sure to be honest, I would imagine so but it could be a bit of a fart, there are a lot of wires going in there.

To find the fault on mine I had to pick the loom apart after I'd done a continuity check on the wire from end to end.

Digger,

For situations like this do a hard reset.

Hard Reset = Remove the Battery (+) lead and leave it disconnected for 30 minutes to allow the Voltage to drop to zero.

If you have a charger then charge your battery with it disconnected.

After 30 minutes (or longer) reattach the B (+) and try to start normally.

The Freel2 has a lot of modules that need to communicate to each other if one of your modules is latched up then it may prevent the engine from starting. The Hard Reset should reset the modules.

If the Hard Reset doesn't work then we can talk about the next steps.


Also you didn't specify if you have a Manual or Automatic. Let us know.


Good luck

Paul

PS my Brother in Law's Lexus wasn't starting and the hard reset worked

CliveS wrote:

.. Does that fuse/relay board lift out?? ..

Not sure to be honest, I would imagine so but it could be a bit of a fart, there are a lot of wires going in there.

To find the fault on mine I had to pick the loom apart after I'd done a continuity check on the wire from end to end.

p_gill wrote:

Digger,

For situations like this do a hard reset.

Hard Reset = Remove the Battery (+) lead and leave it disconnected for 30 minutes to allow the Voltage to drop to zero.

If you have a charger then charge your battery with it disconnected.

After 30 minutes (or longer) reattach the B (+) and try to start normally.

The Freel2 has a lot of modules that need to communicate to each other if one of your modules is latched up then it may prevent the engine from starting. The Hard Reset should reset the modules.

If the Hard Reset doesn't work then we can talk about the next steps.


Also you didn't specify if you have a Manual or Automatic. Let us know.


Good luck

Paul

PS my Brother in Law's Lexus wasn't starting and the hard reset worked